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- I love you, Curadh. - I love you Baehr.
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- This is episode 140 of the Baehr and Curadh Podcast.
We're going to ask EVP questions.
Here are the questions I ask when I record
electronic voice phenomena.
And I think it's only fair that we answer
those same questions ourselves.
- Okay, well, some of this stuff is...
- It's what?
- No, nothing.
It's, they're funny.
- There are some questions, but they're kind of,
it's weird asking some of these, you'll see.
- Please tell me your name.
- My name is Baehr, what is your name?
- Curadh. - Curadh.
- What is your gender?
- Male.
- Male for me too, what a coincidence.
- Wow, we both, like ____, maybe we'll have some,
someday we'll get an entity that's a
non-specific binary gender.
- Mm-hmm, good, could happen one day.
- When were you born?
- 1961.
- 1973.
- You're an old man.
- You robbed the cradle. Yes.
(laughing)
- Where are you from?
- New Jersey.
- Planet Earth.
The whole state?
- No, from Ventner, New Jersey.
- Well, I was born in Fort Worth, Texas,
but I grew up here in Wichita, Kent's.
- Okay.
- Well, you traveled, you lived in Boston there for a while
too, didn't you?
I remember.
I mean, you know, little, my parents lived, like,
in 13 states before I was, like, 10 years old.
- Oh, okay.
- Wow, that's a lot.
- Yeah.
- Where they Gypsies?
- Yeah.
(laughing)
- What was your profession?
Jack of all trades, master of none.
No, pond broker.
- And I am a computer programmer,
at least most of my life I have been,
except for what I had to do,
whatever I could to pay the bills.
- Yeah, yeah, but I mean,
most of the time you've been lucky enough to do your,
sorry, do, see that for a living.
- Do what I love, yeah, you're lucky.
- Yeah.
- And then I started way early.
- Yeah.
- Oh, young.
- Back when most people were programming on punch cards.
- Yeah.
- Is this place important to you?
- This is my home, so I suppose it is.
- Yeah, I would say it's important to me.
- Important to us?
- Yeah, so we live on a thoroughfare.
- What happened to you?
- I don't know.
(laughing)
- What do you want me to start?
(laughing)
- Sorry.
And that would be the million-dollar question, I mean.
- I suppose this question infers that the entity is dead.
- Well, you would hope so.
I don't think you'd...
(laughing)
Just walk it through the park,
and just ask him these people questions.
I don't think that would go over real well.
(laughing)
- Yeah, they would have to be dead.
- So, I guess we can't answer that question.
- No, yeah, you know.
So, I would like to know too.
- Do you know where you are right now?
- Me, no clue.
- Yeah, I live my life in perpetual motion.
Yes, I know where I'm at right now.
- So, I guess from this perspective,
some of these questions are kind of silly.
- Yeah, well, but I mean, you're not.
Only, I mean, it's not, they're not universal, I guess.
So.
- Well, and when I'm listening for answers,
I'm listening for answers in English,
as I can understand.
- Yeah.
- A Spanish ghost is probably not going to make much sense to me.
- I don't think you're going to understand
where you're asking them either though.
That's what's going on.
- Do you know any other entities in the area?
- I know one.
- No, Curadh.
- Yeah.
- And I know you.
Okay.
- Boy, this is going to be done in minutes.
- What religion do you practice?
- None.
- Same here.
- Well, yeah.
Practice, you're right or not believing.
- Well, what's that expression?
When people say that, you know, how does it go?
When people say that atheism is a kind of religion,
it's like saying that baldness is a kind of hair color.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, it's true.
- Yeah.
- How can you believe in something
if you don't believe in nothing at all?
- Mm.
- Okay.
- What do you think of the modern world?
- Hmm.
- That's a loaded question.
- Right now?
- Doesn't look too good.
- Oh.
- Yeah, it's right at this very moment, yes.
- Yeah.
So, I mean, there's another question
where we would have really,
we'd have to be dead and gone if, you know what I mean?
- I don't know.
I think I like the modern world.
- Do you like the way it's going right now?
- Mm-hmm.
- Well, in general, not.
- In general, yeah.
- Our day-to-day life is not really affected.
- Not so much.
- I can't say that, but we're kind of living
in the future that we wanted, I think.
- Yeah.
- I mean, we can, just with our voice,
we can turn the lights on and off,
get open the garage door and close the garage door.
It knows how to find, how to get to a place.
I mean, imagine when you were a child
that would all be magical.
- Mm-hmm.
So now you think we just take it for granted?
- Yeah, we see it every day.
- Yeah, I'm kind of coming into it.
I remember when we first got the Alexa, it was cool.
It was like, I mean, but we were both thrilled with it.
Now, it's just, it's like getting up
and putting on a pair of socks in the morning.
It's just something we're so used to.
But, you know, when we first set it up,
it was like, oh, this is so cool.
Look how cool, look how India it is.
And now, we're just kind of taking it for granted.
Until it doesn't work, and then we have,
then we're screwed, and you can't turn the lights on and off.
- The internet's down and we're done, so.
But, you right now, I mean, day to day,
I mean, just the way the world politics are going,
I know is depressing, but we don't need to get into that.
Just modern world, yeah, I guess, you're right.
- I mean, I imagine an entity that lived
before cars were invented.
- Yeah, 100 years ago.
- Yeah, I mean, there's cars.
- It's not that long ago.
- No, it's not very long ago at all.
I mean, it's, and this is a totally head airplanes
for like 150 years.
- And it's funny 'cause there's a show on TV called 1923.
It's on Paramount.
It's part of the Yellowstone series.
And it's kind of neat because they're in Miami, I believe.
And like when they go into town,
I think it's in Boseman, where it's in Montana,
it's in Montana, 'cause it's Boseman, Montana.
Like on the town, which is Boseman.
And there's a guy selling washing machines.
And it's just neat.
He's like, look at the new wonders of the world.
They have them in the cities, all the big cities.
And you can live like they did it, you know,
like the debonair in New York.
And it shows a washing machine.
It's like a hand crank washing machine.
It's stuff like that, but you know what I mean?
- Like Grandmother had one of those.
- And it's just neat.
And it's like, and it's like, you know,
and they're like, and they're talking about, you know,
there’re cars, but most of them, you know,
people who live on the ranch are on horseback, you know,
they ride in the town and then it's the carriage and stuff like that.
But it's like, that was 102 years and it's a TV show,
but it's showing real life things from back then,
but it shows them like traveling and like,
just sending letters and how far,
how long it took to get letters from traveling there.
And there's like another character, and he's in Africa.
And he's trying to get back to the United States.
And now they came across back then.
I mean, most people traveled by boat to get here.
They didn't have the, there was no intercontinental flight.
So, I mean, that was just 100 years ago.
- And speaking of letters, telegraphs were considered wonders.
You could spread news in minutes and not months and years.
- And now, and now look at what we have the ability of.
I mean, we have, every one of us has a computer
that's a thousand times more intelligent
than anything used to get us to the moon in our pockets.
- I mean, we carry them every day with us.
- And never mind letters or telegraphs,
you can actually talk to somebody
on the other side of the world in real time.
- And now you can video chat with them.
You can see them, you know what I mean?
I mean, before you would never be able to see your loved ones.
You know what I mean?
And there was picture sent, stuff like that.
You know what I mean?
That means we're really privileged, you know what I mean?
And now thinking about it, we really, really are.
But with that in turn, there's other things have come with it.
So, it is amazing how used you can get to something like that.
- Well, in the class, you know what I mean?
Look at my flights.
You know what I mean?
It just took me five minutes to do it.
Look at my flights and all that stuff.
And then just as you share easiness of calling people
on me, like, oh, here's my itinerary, you know what I mean?
So just 30 years ago, you know, 20 years ago,
you couldn't do that.
- Mm-hmm.
- So, we live in a magical time.
- We do.
- Are you attached to this place or an object?
- Pretty attached to this place, I think.
- Yeah, I would say so.
- I hardly ever leave?
- Yeah, I'm becoming more and more of a home body.
- You're really rubbing off on me.
(laughs)
- Now I feel like I don't think that's really what the question
is, but that's one way of answering it.
- Yeah, I think that's the only way that we can answer it.
- Do you have any unfinished business?
- I really don't hope so.
- I really hope so.
- Really?
Well, I would think everyone in the universe
would have some unfinished business.
- Do you think so?
- Do you think you've done everything you want to do?
- I don't think much is that important.
I don't think that we're all put here to accomplish anything.
I think that sounds like a terrible, horrible pessimistic view.
- I think everybody thinks of the star of the world movie.
- I think you're in your own universe.
- Yeah, I mean, but no, I don't think that people
have a big ta-da.
It's got its own so horrible.
I think we able to plug along, you go through your daily life.
- Yeah, there's been a hundred billion people
since people existed.
And most of them really never did anything.
- We are basically a colony of ants.
We're a bigger, higher, more intelligent form of ants.
We basically plug along and do.
And I mean, it sounds terrible, but it's the truth.
We plug along and do our daily motions
and some people are wealthier than others.
I mean, I think I'm pretty happy,
but I don't think that there's a grand ta-da.
I think I just plug along.
I'm just another not even a cog in a machine.
It's like, you know, if I die tomorrow,
nothing would change.
I'm always thinking of the next thing.
- Hmm.
- I mean, but do your next thing go to change the world?
- It will change my world.
- Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a good attitude to have.
I mean, it's good.
It's just, I guess, I'm just a pessimist, so.
- Between the two, I would think I would be the pessimist.
- Mm-hmm.
I mean, I think I have a pretty good output on life,
but I don't think I have any ideas of grandeur.
I don't think me.
- You're not going to be the next president of the United States,
no, if I was the president of anywhere, yeah, I...
- I probably will be president of anything either.
- Yeah.
- So.
- Do you watch over anyone?
- I think we both look out for each other.
- Mm-hmm.
- So, that and the cats,
and soon to be maybe someone of one other person, but.
- Well, I'm sure that's not the way the question is intended,
that's how we can answer it.
- Yeah, I mean, these are these kind of kind of context questions,
but I mean, both still alive, you know what I mean, so.
What do you miss the most?
- Cheese steaks.
(laughs)
- Kidding.
- Really?
- I miss having a cheese steak.
Well, I think that does a lot to do
with my future trip coming up, so.
What do I miss the most?
I don't...
- There's nothing that I really miss.
- I'm thinking that I can get anything I want,
There's Amazon now.
- Yeah, yeah, there's really nothing, but.
- Not even experiences.
- Really?
There's nothing else you'd want to do again?
- People say, you know, I like to travel,
but I don't, I don't like to travel in places
where they speak English, and then limits me.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, there's not really a whole lot.
- You're not a big traveler.
I mean, you, you, much rather just stay at home.
I mean, it's a big tidal to get you to get on a plane
and it's towards you completely out of your, your element.
- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah, you're looking at me like this.
- I'm not a seat of the pants, kind of person.
- No, no, not at all.
I think when we went on our trip,
you took all the week off afterwards.
- Just a couple of weeks.
- Just a few different things.
(laughs)
- Oh, well, um.
- How do you spend your time?
- Relax and watch the TV.
- Sleeping.
- Sleeping. - Yeah.
- That's what happens when you have an animal,
like gets you up like an hour on the hour.
(laughs)
- And I know she doesn't bother you,
but she loves bothering me.
Yeah, how do you spend your time?
- Planning. - Thinking of the next thing.
- Planning on the computer.
- Mm-hmm. - Yeah.
- Do you have a message for others?
- Live long and prosper.
(laughs)
- There you go. - Mm-hmm.
- Thanks. - Yeah, I wouldn't have thought of that.
- Well, what?
- What?
- You would have thought of that.
- You're smarter than you think.
- No, you have any? - Maybe.
- You have a message for others?
- Be kind.
- That's a good one.
It's like I stole yours and you stole mine.
(laughs)
- Exactly.
- We flipped up there for a second.
(laughs)
- What was your happiest moment in life?
- Probably when you and me got married.
- I figured that would be your answer.
- I know it's not yours.
- And I say that people who tell me
that their happiest moment in life
is when they got married clearly have never had
two candy bars dropped in the vending machine.
- I knew you were going say that.
- So, our marriage is compared to a candy bar
dropping in a vending machine, that's great.
- Is the next question do you have any illusions of grandeur?
- No.
(laughs)
- Yeah, I would say that.
It just sticks out the most.
- It's a pretty good milestone, I guess.
That's going to be 10 years, you're pretty soon.
- 10 years, 10 years in May.
- Wow, a whole decade.
- A long time.
- Doesn't seem like it though, does it?
- You're like, you have no idea...
- No, I just, it feels like I can't remember
when we weren't married.
- It's been, yeah, we've been to a lot too.
You know, we met, I was both, I was bipedal.
- For a while, yeah.
- For a little while.
So, but yeah, it's been, it's been a ride, but it's been good.
- Not a lot of water under the bridge.
- But I wouldn't change it.
- What was the biggest historical event you remember?
- 9/11.
- I guess I would have to say that too.
Although, I remember when Richard Nixon resigned,
that was a big thing.
I was very young, but I watched the moon landing
on television.
- See, that would be the best thing ever for that.
- My mother said, watch this, it's, it's important.
I don't know if there's a lot of big things happening
during my life.
- Yeah, and the Challenger, trying not to be a tragic.
- Yeah, I was at an airport, wasn't it?
- I was in class.
I was one of the kids, I was one of those kids
where they wheeled in the TV into the commons area
and, you know, watched it, and watched it blow up.
- Probably never good to do that again.
- No, well, and it's kind of funny.
It's like nowadays, if that happened today,
every school would have a counselor involved in the bubble on,
and they were just like, okay kids, turn off the TV, move along.
You just all, just something exploded in the middle of it
with people on it, but, you know,
and then go back to class now.
But it's just, it's sad, but it's kind of weird
how things have changed.
And they wonder what genetics is.
- Well, they didn't have active shooter drills
when you were in school.
- Yeah, sure, so, you know, but it's just,
it's kind of just so, why Gen X is so cynical,
'cause it's just, we don't care, we can't care about everything,
or you'll care about nothing.
- Yeah.
But, you know, we get to, we get to try it.
It's like these people who just really could give a fuck.
It's true, it's mean, I mean, really, I mean,
- How does that affect me?
- Yeah, I mean, it's just, but it's kind of funny
'cause people are like, why was it their Gen X president?
Because they're smarter than that.
We don't want that; we don't want that heat.
Okay, what are you proud of?
- Nothing.
- Our marriage, I would say our marriage, I'm proud of you.
But no, I mean, other than that, I don't have any,
we say pride in, in relation to Gay Pride,
but it's not really pride, it's, it's a lack of shame.
- It's, it's the, it's, being gay isn't really
anything to be proud of, but we should not be ashamed of it either.
- The hide in the shadows and the closet and, yeah,
basically, work in the back, you know,
put us in the foreground, we want to be in this wildlife.
That's a good point.
- Do you have any regret?
- I think everybody has regrets.
- Yeah, that's going to have to be a universal answer of yes
so, everybody has regrets.
- Even if we're not Catholic, we still have regrets.
Yeah, that's just part of life.
You know, I mean, some regrets are bigger than others.
- I wish I'd never bought an American car.
- Yeah, yeah, stuff like that.
- But yeah, I mean, everybody has regrets.
Some are bigger than others, like I said,
just my new summer here.
- It just depends on how fine of a microscope
you want to put on it, I guess.
- Yeah, I mean, you'd get up in the morning
and then well shouldn't have ate that.
(laughs)
Here's your regret, right there.
- I shouldn't have drunk that last night.
- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah, that kind of thing.
- What brings you joy?
- Everything.
- Really?
- Okay, it's good question.
- I mean, it's, what's the alternative being dead?
- Mm-hmm.
- I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, everything,
I mean, if you think about that,
everything should bring you joy.
I mean, just getting up in the morning.
- Mm-hmm.
- I mean, it's a pretty amazing thing.
- When I have a really stressful day at work,
I want to go to a park somewhere and go to a walk
and see the squirrels and hear the birds.
- Mm-hmm.
- That relaxes you.
- Mm-hmm.
- That brings me joy.
- Mm-hmm.
- That's good.
What brings me joy?
- There's a lot of things to do, I guess.
I'm like being spending time with you.
- Isn't that why we did this podcast?
- Mm-hmm.
- It's been more time together, yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of just a little things.
I mean, just hanging out with friends,
you know, I do enjoy my job as much as I bitch about it.
That brings me joy sometimes, stuff like that.
It's a little thing.
- Yeah, I would have to add that to,
because I love my job.
As my current job is my karmic payback
for the horrible, horrible job I had before.
- Yeah.
- Because the job was terrible.
I hated that job.
It was a soul-sucking job.
- Okay.
- What was your biggest challenge in life?
- Probably coming out.
- That diabetes?
- For you, diabetes, yeah.
- Well, I mean, diabetes, losing my leg, coming out.
Where do I start?
You know, it's been a good, I mean,
there's a lot of challenges in everybody's life.
It's like, I think either you let it define you
or you can handle it.
And it depends on how big of a mountain you're going to make.
You can make it a mountain or you make it a hill.
A little bump in the road.
So, I think that's really kind of depends on,
you know, how you define your challenges in life.
- But you don't think you should be defined by your challenges?
- I think you should define your challenges.
I don't think people were going to define me by,
but that was the guy, the diabetic with my leg.
You know, I think I'm more than that.
I think I can define myself as more than that.
You know, people shouldn't define me as the gay guy.
- You're more than that.
You're more than just that, in my opinion, you know.
- That's a very enlightened viewpoint.
- Not bad for a dumb jock, huh?
(laughing)
- Do you stay here all the time?
- Yeah, where else would I go?
(laughing)
You're in work.
- Well, I think back on that,
that question of what was your profession?
So, like you go to, like you go to Cowtown,
and you go to the blacksmith shop and you say,
what was your profession?
- Yeah, most likely it was the blacksmiths.
- The blacksmiths, yeah.
Well, can you imagine, okay, this is as terrible,
but like, you're fine, it's as imagine.
And then like you were just stuck in this horrible position,
and that's how you died.
You've set the haunt that place for the rest of your life.
- You've had any pants on.
- Like, say you, like you had to take a crap,
and it just so happened, you were at a park
and you squat behind a tree and next thing you're dead.
But you're the ghost who's known as taking a crap behind a tree.
(laughing)
- Elvis, Elvis is known for dying on the toilet.
- Exactly, poor bastard.
(laughing)
The man put out some really good music,
and he's known for taking a crap
and dying, you know what I mean?
So, so yeah, I mean, what are we?
- The point is, you could go at any moment.
- Yeah, literally.
Kid, wonder if you can get into that bathroom
and have an EVP session?
- What's that?
- It was in Vegas.
- What was his estate called?
- Graceland.
- Graceland, was that a Graceland?
- I thought it was in Vegas.
I thought it was one of the hotels.
- Oh, could be.
- Yeah.
- Well, that hotel's probably been raised
several times by now.
- Probably.
- Whichever one that it was.
- Yeah.
Can you imagine staying in the hotel room
that Elvis died in, on the crapper?
(laughing)
- Do you remember a TV sitcom called Mama's Family?
And her husband died before the show ever started, didn't he?
- I think so, yeah.
- Or we see, he's always in the bathroom.
- I'm not sure. - I can't remember properly.
- But there was sometimes that they would ask her
if she thought he was trying to communicate with her
in this toilet flushed.
(laughing)
- That's funny.
Okay, do you have a joke for it this week?
- Yes.
Why should you never go ghost hunting in the rain?
- I don't know.
- It's a curious look you have on your face.
- Why?
- It dampens the spirits.
- Oh God.
Come on.
That's a bad, bad, bad joke.
That is terrible.
Then you don't laugh.
- We hope you liked episode 140 of the Baehr and Curadh
podcast.
This is Baehr.
- And Curadh.
- Goodbye. - Goodbye.
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