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 Hello from Baehr and Curadh, a podcast from the Land of Awes Information Services.

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 I love you, Curadh.

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 I love you, Baehr.

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 This is episode 146 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 We're going to take the Can You See Ghosts test.

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 Hmm, that should be fun.

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 Do you have an open mind about the supernatural?

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 I do.

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 Do you?

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 Do you?

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 I think so.

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 Do you think that's required to see ghosts?

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 I think you have to have some sort of belief in it.

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 Um, because I think if you don't, then you'll just, you know, blame it on happenstance or

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 You know what I mean?

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 Some people are just dead set against it.

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 So, I think, you know, either it's their religious beliefs or...

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 Oh, those people who say you either go to heaven or hell, you don't hang around on earth.

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 And so, they just refuse to believe that that's possible.

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 I don't know that I believe in ghosts.

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 You don't think you believe in ghosts?

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 I believe there may be entities.

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 Um, I don't necessarily think that they're dead.

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 So, you think they're just spirits still warming?

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 Or some sort of metaphysical...

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 You remember the podcast we listened to in the car the other day about astral projection?

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Where people, their mind leaves their body and they go someplace else.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 I don't think you'd have to be dead to do that.

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 Could be.

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 That's an interesting thought.

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 I guess if I could do astral projection, I would leave my body and I would go mess with

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 all the paranormal investigators out there who are thinking that they're recording ghosts.

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 That'd be hilarious.

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 That'd be mean, but...

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 I would see.

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 I could see you doing something.

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 I could see you doing something.

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 I could see you doing something like that.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Have you ever felt a sudden chill in a room when there was no apparent reason?

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 But I think everyone's...

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 Either there's a really bad draft or it could be paranormal activity.

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 But no, I've gotten chills before.

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 I believe I have.

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 But it's like more common when I'm in the surgery room or something like that.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Instead of a haunted house.

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 Yeah, that's one of those ones where it's like, oh, you've got a chill and there's a

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 ghost in the room.

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 The theory is that they are using your energy to manifest.

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 And that leaves you cold.

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 So, they're zapping your energy.

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 Have you ever felt you were being watched when you were alone?

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 Absolutely everybody has had that feeling.

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 I guess that someone's watching you and you're not...

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 What happens if someone's really watching you, though?

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 Um, there are some devices that emit electronic frequencies that make people paranoid.

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 Oh, really?

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 I believe the Defense Department has tried to use that against people.

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 It scares them into running away.

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 That's really cool.

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 I mean, I don't know if I'd like it to be done to myself, but...

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 There's also what they call the brown sound.

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 What's the brown sound?

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 What you do?

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 A device that emits a sound that makes you evacuate your bowels immediately.

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 I was going to say it didn't make you poop or something.

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 That's nasty.

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 Don't make you shit your pants.

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 Definitely effective against the enemy, and probably not permanent.

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 Yeah, but what happens if you have a determined enemy who's going to just keep shitting while

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 Well, I got beat up today.

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 What happened?

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 Well, a guy was pooping his pants, but he took a...

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 Um, they've had people in, um, what was they call it?

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 It's not the CAT scan.

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 It's the other scan.

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 MRI?

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 MRI.

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 Where, you know, you're exposed to very powerful magnets that detect stuff in your body.

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 Well, um, at different frequencies in your brain, um, it can make people feel things,

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 and fear is one of them.

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 MRIs can do that?

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 That's interesting.

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 That's scary.

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 It can also make people experience orgasm, too.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 You'd think somebody would put that in a bottle and sell it on porn sites.

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 Well, they cost, don't they cost millions of dollars?

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 I'm sure if they were economical, you'd probably buy one by now if that was the case.

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 There was a movie called Altered States.

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 Um, where this guy, no, no, it wasn't Altered States.

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 What was it called?

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 It was where they would wear these headsets and it would record their thoughts.

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 I don't remember the name of it.

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 It wasn't Altered States.

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 Um, anyway, they got the headsets smaller and smaller and until people, just an ordinary

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 thing that you could put on and you could record your experience.

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 And they had, um, this guy, uh, they recorded him with a bunch of prostitutes and he was

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 And one of the team, um, got their hands on it.

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 And he got on that tape and put it in a loop.

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 I could see that happening to him.

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 Have you ever known the phone was going to ring before it rang?

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 I thought right then.

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 I don't think I ever have.

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 I think this was the first time.

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 This was probably more common when you had actual phones plugged into the wall.

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 Have you, like, known the ring?

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 It sounds familiar.

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 I, I, I think I remember my mother many times saying, I was just about to call you.

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 I remember my mom doing that.

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 Um, do you think you just have gone away since everyone has so much access to a phone now?

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 You don't need to necessarily call them anymore.

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 You can send them an email or a text message.

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 Have you ever seen anything that could not be explained by science and logic?

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 Besides Donald Trump.

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 I don't think so.

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 I don't think so either.

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 Well, off the top of my head, I'm trying to think.

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 You're looking at me like I have.

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 Nothing that's...

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 Nothing that's really popped off the top of my head.

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 You don't remember when you had the ghost in the house?

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 So, here, and then just other times, I guess, throughout my life, just certain things.

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 And I have recorded sounds that I know were not there, I did not hear when I...

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 When you did it.

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 ...was doing it.

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 Have you done, have you ever done anything else besides recently?

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 I keep trying.

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 Life gets in the way.

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 I don't have as much time as I should to do that.

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 If I was retired, it'd be different, I guess.

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 Yeah, that's true.

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 But there's all kinds of, um, like x-rays.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 You know, you can't see them, but they still exist.

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 It's a good way of putting it.

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 It's a good way of putting it.

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 So, it's, um...

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 It can't be explained by science yet.

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 That's true.

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 That's a good way of putting it.

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 Um, there's all kinds of accounts in history where people saw bizarre things and they attributed

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 it to angels or whatnot, and now we know that's a perfectly natural phenomenon that, that

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 we can explain.

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 So, I guess perhaps in the end, science will explain it all.

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 Explain it all.

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 Well, I wish it wouldn't, because I like some, I like some of the mystery behind it.

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 I think that's what the whole paranormal industry is about.

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 The mystery behind it and the spookiness behind it, yeah.

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 Uh-huh.

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 I think so, too.

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 But that makes it fun.

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 Nobody really wants to find a Bigfoot, because, you know, the fun's all over the end.

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 Well, you could.

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 I mean, you just might run into Jeopardy! again, beat up by a Sasquatch.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 So, can you imagine being the first person to find a Sasquatch?

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Like, like thousands of years ago?

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 Well, no, like, actually, like, you, like, now, like, nowadays, like, you actually found

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 a Sasquatch, a live one, captured it, and brought it in to...

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 Imagine being the, the guy that did that.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 You'd have; you'd have...

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 And be set for life.

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00:09:57.702 --> 00:10:01.582
 Well, yeah, but you'd have people who'd be excited about it, and people would be like,

271
00:10:01.582 --> 00:10:06.442
 oh, PETA, you know, treating, mistreating animals, but then it's like, is it an animal,

272
00:10:06.442 --> 00:10:07.782
 or is it something...

273
00:10:07.782 --> 00:10:08.262
 Mm-hmm.

274
00:10:08.262 --> 00:10:11.662
 You know, equal or better than us, you know, something like that.

275
00:10:11.822 --> 00:10:14.562
 Do you remember a movie called Skullduggery?

276
00:10:14.562 --> 00:10:15.422
 Mm-hmm.

277
00:10:15.422 --> 00:10:19.082
 Robert Redford and...

278
00:10:19.082 --> 00:10:20.182
 I can't think of the other...

279
00:10:20.182 --> 00:10:21.762
 I remember Harry and the Hendersons.

280
00:10:21.762 --> 00:10:27.762
 It was about discovering an unknown species of subhumans.

281
00:10:27.762 --> 00:10:29.142
 Oh, okay.

282
00:10:29.142 --> 00:10:36.982
 And one of them tried to attack this woman, and he killed it.

283
00:10:36.982 --> 00:10:38.822
 The subhuman?

284
00:10:38.822 --> 00:10:39.802
 Yes.

285
00:10:39.802 --> 00:10:41.702
 And he demanded...

286
00:10:41.702 --> 00:10:48.082
 He demanded to be put on trial for murder, so that they could legally define them as

287
00:10:48.082 --> 00:10:48.982
 human or not.

288
00:10:48.982 --> 00:10:49.402
 Okay.

289
00:10:49.402 --> 00:10:53.802
 Um, it was quite an interesting movie.

290
00:10:53.802 --> 00:10:55.042
 It's a kind of interesting concept.

291
00:10:55.042 --> 00:10:55.642
 Yeah.

292
00:10:55.642 --> 00:10:56.482
 Hmm.

293
00:10:56.482 --> 00:11:00.342
 Yeah, the only movie that I've seen with a Sasquatch in it is Harry and the Hendersons.

294
00:11:00.342 --> 00:11:00.762
 Hmm.

295
00:11:00.762 --> 00:11:01.962
 You've seen Harry and the Hendersons.

296
00:11:01.962 --> 00:11:03.762
 And he's probably just like that.

297
00:11:03.762 --> 00:11:04.682
 Yeah, I think so.

298
00:11:04.682 --> 00:11:06.062
 Probably a real diva in person.

299
00:11:06.062 --> 00:11:06.602
 Probably.

300
00:11:06.602 --> 00:11:09.082
 John Lithgow was pretty good in that movie.

301
00:11:09.082 --> 00:11:09.402
 Hmm.

302
00:11:11.582 --> 00:11:11.822
 Hmm.

303
00:11:11.822 --> 00:11:14.022
 You're looking at me like I'm nuts.

304
00:11:14.022 --> 00:11:15.722
 All right.

305
00:11:15.722 --> 00:11:20.882
 Um, have you ever had a vision or a dream that came true?

306
00:11:20.882 --> 00:11:21.742
 All the time.

307
00:11:21.742 --> 00:11:22.662
 Yeah, same here.

308
00:11:22.662 --> 00:11:23.922
 Boring.

309
00:11:23.922 --> 00:11:28.522
 Unfortunately, a lot of my dreams are horrible.

310
00:11:28.522 --> 00:11:29.282
 Yeah.

311
00:11:29.282 --> 00:11:32.462
 Yeah, you've had a lot of, like, night terrors and stuff like that.

312
00:11:32.462 --> 00:11:35.502
 I just wish that real cool dreams would come true.

313
00:11:35.502 --> 00:11:36.842
 Oh, like when you fly?

314
00:11:36.842 --> 00:11:37.882
 Like when you fly.

315
00:11:37.882 --> 00:11:39.362
 No, I don't like flying.

316
00:11:39.362 --> 00:11:40.962
 I'm afraid of heights.

317
00:11:41.462 --> 00:11:43.862
 So even in my dreams, I fly, like, four feet from the ground.

318
00:11:43.862 --> 00:11:45.662
 I don't do it.

319
00:11:45.662 --> 00:11:47.042
 I don't like heights.

320
00:11:47.042 --> 00:11:48.322
 Why would you do it?

321
00:11:48.322 --> 00:11:52.582
 Um, no, like the ones where I'm filthy rich.

322
00:11:52.582 --> 00:11:54.942
 I don't have to worry about bills and stuff like that.

323
00:11:54.942 --> 00:11:55.582
 Hmm.

324
00:11:55.582 --> 00:11:56.842
 Those are the cool dreams.

325
00:11:56.842 --> 00:11:57.822
 Why can't I be like that?

326
00:11:57.822 --> 00:12:01.822
 I suppose with more money comes more responsibilities.

327
00:12:01.822 --> 00:12:03.862
 Yeah, more money, more problems.

328
00:12:03.862 --> 00:12:07.102
 Chaos will never leave us.

329
00:12:07.102 --> 00:12:08.082
 No, that's true.

330
00:12:08.082 --> 00:12:09.442
 It kind of, like, follows us around.

331
00:12:09.442 --> 00:12:09.942
 Mm-hmm.

332
00:12:09.942 --> 00:12:10.862
 Kind of like our pet.

333
00:12:11.342 --> 00:12:19.502
 There's that, um, I think it's called a Chinese curse.

334
00:12:19.502 --> 00:12:22.462
 Um, "may you live in interesting times."

335
00:12:22.462 --> 00:12:23.042
 Mm-hmm.

336
00:12:23.042 --> 00:12:24.402
 Yeah, no kidding.

337
00:12:24.402 --> 00:12:26.022
 Yeah, that's it.

338
00:12:26.022 --> 00:12:26.402
 Yeah, that's it.

339
00:12:26.402 --> 00:12:34.982
 Have you retained the ability since childhood to accept new experiences without preconceptions?

340
00:12:34.982 --> 00:12:37.742
 I think everybody has.

341
00:12:37.742 --> 00:12:41.222
 I'm glad you didn't get that question because you'd be...

342
00:12:41.222 --> 00:12:43.302
 Struggling over every one of those words.

343
00:12:43.302 --> 00:12:46.342
 Um, what kind of dummy do you think I am?

344
00:12:46.342 --> 00:12:47.862
 Do you think I'm a complete moron?

345
00:12:47.862 --> 00:12:50.362
 I can't say preconceptions?

346
00:12:50.362 --> 00:12:51.162
 Mm-hmm.

347
00:12:51.162 --> 00:12:52.802
 Well, there's...

348
00:12:52.802 --> 00:12:53.982
 No, I don't think...

349
00:12:53.982 --> 00:12:54.382
 I think...

350
00:12:54.382 --> 00:13:00.082
 I think everybody has to...

351
00:13:00.082 --> 00:13:00.722
 Grow up?

352
00:13:00.722 --> 00:13:03.982
 Yeah, I mean, if you don't, that's one of the things that's mature.

353
00:13:03.982 --> 00:13:06.682
 I mean, it's part of going up and being mature.

354
00:13:06.682 --> 00:13:07.602
 Hmm.

355
00:13:07.602 --> 00:13:11.102
 And I suppose learning from your experience...

356
00:13:11.102 --> 00:13:12.762
 Mm-hmm.

357
00:13:12.762 --> 00:13:15.982
 Yeah, I mean...

358
00:13:15.982 --> 00:13:16.902
 I don't know.

359
00:13:16.902 --> 00:13:18.222
 I guess it's silly to me.

360
00:13:18.222 --> 00:13:19.062
 Hmm.

361
00:13:19.062 --> 00:13:20.602
 So...

362
00:13:20.602 --> 00:13:21.262
 I mean, have you?

363
00:13:21.262 --> 00:13:23.622
 Um...

364
00:13:23.622 --> 00:13:24.182
 I don't know.

365
00:13:24.182 --> 00:13:27.942
 Maybe I have retained some of the wonder of my childhood.

366
00:13:27.942 --> 00:13:29.502
 Okay.

367
00:13:29.502 --> 00:13:32.802
 I think I'll always have it a little bit.

368
00:13:32.802 --> 00:13:34.982
 Still...

369
00:13:34.982 --> 00:13:41.082
 Maybe that's why trows want to have children so they can re-experience that.

370
00:13:41.082 --> 00:13:42.422
 Through their children's eyes.

371
00:13:42.422 --> 00:13:47.562
 I mean, that's one of our friends pretty much is raising her grandchildren.

372
00:13:47.562 --> 00:13:49.202
 Hmm.

373
00:13:49.202 --> 00:13:50.862
 You know who I'm talking about.

374
00:13:50.862 --> 00:13:51.442
 No.

375
00:13:51.442 --> 00:13:52.102
 No idea.

376
00:13:52.102 --> 00:13:55.242
 She was there when I lost my leg.

377
00:13:55.242 --> 00:13:55.462
 Hmm.

378
00:13:55.462 --> 00:13:56.082
 A lot.

379
00:13:56.082 --> 00:13:57.702
 You know who I'm talking about now?

380
00:13:57.702 --> 00:13:59.442
 We went to her kid's wedding.

381
00:13:59.442 --> 00:14:00.082
 Yeah.

382
00:14:00.082 --> 00:14:03.002
 That's half the reason that her kid had so many...

383
00:14:03.002 --> 00:14:03.682
 Three kids.

384
00:14:03.682 --> 00:14:05.662
 Because she wanted to raise them.

385
00:14:05.662 --> 00:14:06.642
 Pretty much.

386
00:14:06.642 --> 00:14:07.062
 Hmm.

387
00:14:07.062 --> 00:14:08.142
 And she did.

388
00:14:08.142 --> 00:14:10.122
 She's doing it right now, so...

389
00:14:10.122 --> 00:14:10.282
 Hmm.

390
00:14:10.962 --> 00:14:15.762
 But, yeah, I mean, her oldest is going to be 12 soon, so...

391
00:14:15.762 --> 00:14:19.202
 Because, yeah, because he was born right when I lost my leg.

392
00:14:19.202 --> 00:14:26.522
 But I don't know why you can't be that way just on your own.

393
00:14:26.522 --> 00:14:27.562
 Yeah, that's a good point.

394
00:14:27.562 --> 00:14:29.922
 Are we going to have to build an ark?

395
00:14:29.922 --> 00:14:30.682
 Hmm.

396
00:14:30.682 --> 00:14:31.282
 Probably.

397
00:14:31.282 --> 00:14:39.002
 I imagine the next sound that's going to interrupt the podcast will be the water alarm in the basement.

398
00:14:40.842 --> 00:14:41.262
 Oh, yes.

399
00:14:41.262 --> 00:14:47.462
 Are you more likely to make decisions using your gut than your thinking logic?

400
00:14:47.462 --> 00:14:49.742
 No.

401
00:14:49.742 --> 00:14:50.762
 Not me.

402
00:14:50.762 --> 00:14:53.102
 You probably, yes.

403
00:14:53.102 --> 00:14:54.482
 I knew you were going to say that.

404
00:14:54.482 --> 00:15:01.622
 You fly by the seat of your pants all the time, but no, I have to plot and scheme and have everything planned out.

405
00:15:01.622 --> 00:15:02.522
 Yeah, you have to have everything.

406
00:15:02.522 --> 00:15:05.782
 You do not fly by the seat of your pants whatsoever.

407
00:15:05.782 --> 00:15:06.562
 Mm-mm.

408
00:15:06.562 --> 00:15:08.602
 I think you plan out taking crap in the morning.

409
00:15:08.602 --> 00:15:10.822
 I never do anything half-assed.

410
00:15:10.822 --> 00:15:13.482
 I always use my whole ass.

411
00:15:13.482 --> 00:15:16.142
 I know.

412
00:15:16.142 --> 00:15:29.602
 No, I am more of the free spirit type of do something on a whim where you want two weeks' notice with an additional two weeks' notice.

413
00:15:29.602 --> 00:15:34.862
 And if anything changes, then the whole idea is scrapped.

414
00:15:34.862 --> 00:15:35.602
 Mm-hmm.

415
00:15:35.602 --> 00:15:39.602
 So, but no, you're rubbing off on me, though, too.

416
00:15:39.602 --> 00:15:40.702
 Well, why would you do that?

417
00:15:40.702 --> 00:15:42.862
 Why would that have anything to do with seeing ghosts?

418
00:15:42.862 --> 00:15:44.062
 I don't know.

419
00:15:44.062 --> 00:15:47.282
 Just kind of maybe use your free spirit, a free will.

420
00:15:47.282 --> 00:15:51.622
 Maybe there's thinking to detect ghosts.

421
00:15:51.622 --> 00:15:54.062
 You have to be open to it.

422
00:15:54.062 --> 00:15:54.702
 Oh, okay.

423
00:15:54.702 --> 00:15:56.582
 Okay.

424
00:15:56.582 --> 00:16:01.682
 Have you ever been told that psychic ability runs in your family?

425
00:16:01.682 --> 00:16:02.662
 No.

426
00:16:02.662 --> 00:16:03.562
 Me neither.

427
00:16:03.562 --> 00:16:04.102
 Really?

428
00:16:04.102 --> 00:16:04.642
 I'm surprised.

429
00:16:04.642 --> 00:16:05.842
 I'm surprised someone isn't.

430
00:16:05.842 --> 00:16:09.222
 My father used to see ghosts all the time, though.

431
00:16:09.222 --> 00:16:09.782
 Really?

432
00:16:09.782 --> 00:16:10.582
 Yeah.

433
00:16:10.582 --> 00:16:11.222
 Do you want to talk about it?

434
00:16:11.222 --> 00:16:18.202
 And he would fight them.

435
00:16:18.202 --> 00:16:24.162
 They would make him angry, and he would want to fight them.

436
00:16:24.162 --> 00:16:24.842
 Really?

437
00:16:24.842 --> 00:16:25.402
 Mm-hmm.

438
00:16:25.402 --> 00:16:27.722
 That must have been kind of crazy growing up.

439
00:16:27.722 --> 00:16:28.282
 Yeah.

440
00:16:28.282 --> 00:16:32.562
 In the house that we lived in, yeah, it was that way.

441
00:16:32.562 --> 00:16:36.662
 But when we moved out, then that stopped happening.

442
00:16:36.662 --> 00:16:40.462
 Well, was it kind of scary as a kid to see your father trying to fight you?

443
00:16:40.462 --> 00:16:41.702
 Did he try to fight something that wasn't there?

444
00:16:41.702 --> 00:16:42.122
 Yeah.

445
00:16:42.122 --> 00:16:44.082
 So, he would literally yell at it?

446
00:16:44.082 --> 00:16:46.022
 He'd wake up and throw his pillow at something.

447
00:16:46.022 --> 00:16:47.542
 Really?

448
00:16:47.542 --> 00:16:48.502
 Yell at it.

449
00:16:48.502 --> 00:16:49.262
 Yeah.

450
00:16:49.262 --> 00:16:50.902
 And your mom was just cool with it?

451
00:16:50.902 --> 00:16:55.482
 No, probably not.

452
00:16:55.482 --> 00:16:56.242
 Yeah.

453
00:16:56.242 --> 00:17:00.002
 Did you think your dad was crazy?

454
00:17:00.002 --> 00:17:01.702
 No.

455
00:17:01.702 --> 00:17:04.662
 He definitely thought he saw something.

456
00:17:04.662 --> 00:17:05.302
 Mm-hmm.

457
00:17:05.302 --> 00:17:06.242
 Did your sister?

458
00:17:06.242 --> 00:17:09.642
 Like I said, when we moved out of that house, that stopped happening.

459
00:17:09.642 --> 00:17:10.342
 Was this the house?

460
00:17:10.342 --> 00:17:10.962
 It's over on Baehr

461
00:17:10.962 --> 00:17:11.582
 Mm-hmm.

462
00:17:11.582 --> 00:17:12.762
 Wow, that's crazy.

463
00:17:12.762 --> 00:17:13.862
 And you never told me that.

464
00:17:13.862 --> 00:17:14.642
 Hmm.

465
00:17:14.642 --> 00:17:15.222
 Hmm.

466
00:17:15.222 --> 00:17:17.842
 So, I take it they do believe in ghosts, then?

467
00:17:17.842 --> 00:17:22.322
 Oh, my parents believed in all that paranormal stuff, yeah.

468
00:17:22.322 --> 00:17:23.002
 Oh, okay.

469
00:17:23.002 --> 00:17:24.522
 And so, does your sister?

470
00:17:24.522 --> 00:17:30.102
 Most of my life, I've tried to fight the urge to be interested in that, but I've kind of

471
00:17:30.102 --> 00:17:31.122
 given up on it lately.

472
00:17:31.122 --> 00:17:33.522
 Because you find yourself interested in it now?

473
00:17:33.522 --> 00:17:33.802
 Uh-huh.

474
00:17:33.802 --> 00:17:35.102
 And, I mean, it's interesting.

475
00:17:35.102 --> 00:17:36.582
 I mean, it could be worse.

476
00:17:36.582 --> 00:17:38.622
 You could get into, like, crack cocaine or something like that.

477
00:17:38.622 --> 00:17:39.402
 I suppose, yeah.

478
00:17:39.402 --> 00:17:40.322
 So, I'm glad.

479
00:17:40.322 --> 00:17:40.922
 I'm glad you found this out.

480
00:17:40.922 --> 00:17:44.262
 My parents used to go to UFO conferences and stuff like that.

481
00:17:44.262 --> 00:17:44.822
 Oh, really?

482
00:17:44.822 --> 00:17:45.342
 Mm-hmm.

483
00:17:45.342 --> 00:17:45.862
 Wow.

484
00:17:45.862 --> 00:17:47.162
 So, they're one of those wackos.

485
00:17:47.162 --> 00:17:47.742
 Mm-hmm.

486
00:17:47.742 --> 00:17:48.302
 I'm kidding.

487
00:17:48.302 --> 00:17:50.202
 None of you people are wackos.

488
00:17:50.202 --> 00:17:52.342
 I don't need anybody coming after me.

489
00:17:52.342 --> 00:17:54.962
 Uh, that's interesting.

490
00:17:54.962 --> 00:17:56.182
 Hmm.

491
00:17:56.182 --> 00:17:59.682
 And I think my sister does, too.

492
00:17:59.682 --> 00:18:05.722
 That's a topic that the family can talk about that doesn't cause any politics or anything.

493
00:18:05.722 --> 00:18:08.722
 Yeah, and I've kind of witnessed those conversations.

494
00:18:10.202 --> 00:18:11.422
 Yeah, the whole family gets involved.

495
00:18:11.422 --> 00:18:14.182
 And you actually partake in it, too, which is kind of interesting.

496
00:18:14.182 --> 00:18:14.582
 Yeah.

497
00:18:14.582 --> 00:18:17.002
 Yeah, normally I can't get a word in edgewise.

498
00:18:17.002 --> 00:18:19.182
 Yeah, normally you're just real quiet sitting in the corner.

499
00:18:19.182 --> 00:18:21.442
 So that's what I want to talk about.

500
00:18:21.442 --> 00:18:22.942
 I want to talk about the ghosts coming.

501
00:18:22.942 --> 00:18:25.962
 So since today is Easter, that's going to be the topic is ghosts and UFOs.

502
00:18:25.962 --> 00:18:27.522
 But I'm going to bring politics into it.

503
00:18:27.522 --> 00:18:32.702
 I'm going to bring politics in and say the ghosts need to kidnap Trump and take him away on a UFO.

504
00:18:32.702 --> 00:18:38.382
 I'm all for that, too.

505
00:18:38.382 --> 00:18:40.082
 So, we'll just kind of get that out of the way.

506
00:18:40.082 --> 00:18:41.542
 Get that little zinger in there real quick.

507
00:18:41.542 --> 00:18:43.142
 See who voted for Trump and who didn't.

508
00:18:43.142 --> 00:18:46.982
 I suspect they all did.

509
00:18:46.982 --> 00:18:47.602
 Probably.

510
00:18:47.602 --> 00:18:52.482
 Would you refuse to spend the night in a haunted house?

511
00:18:52.482 --> 00:18:53.062
 No.

512
00:18:53.062 --> 00:18:54.482
 I wouldn't either.

513
00:18:54.482 --> 00:18:55.542
 I would want to go.

514
00:18:55.542 --> 00:18:56.262
 I think it would be cool.

515
00:18:56.262 --> 00:18:56.902
 I would want to see it.

516
00:18:56.902 --> 00:18:58.802
 Until shit got crazy.

517
00:18:58.802 --> 00:19:02.742
 If shit started getting crazy like in a haunted movie, then I don't know.

518
00:19:02.742 --> 00:19:04.102
 I'd probably want to leave.

519
00:19:04.102 --> 00:19:06.762
 But, yeah, I think it would be cool.

520
00:19:06.762 --> 00:19:09.822
 I got excited when I read that question because I'm like, that would be neat.

521
00:19:09.962 --> 00:19:10.742
 I think that would be cool.

522
00:19:10.742 --> 00:19:11.322
 Oh, yeah.

523
00:19:11.322 --> 00:19:12.702
 It really would.

524
00:19:12.702 --> 00:19:13.342
 I mean.

525
00:19:13.342 --> 00:19:16.102
 I would bring our recorders and everything.

526
00:19:16.102 --> 00:19:16.602
 Would you sleep?

527
00:19:16.602 --> 00:19:18.482
 Hell no.

528
00:19:18.482 --> 00:19:19.622
 I probably would.

529
00:19:19.622 --> 00:19:20.262
 I probably would.

530
00:19:20.262 --> 00:19:21.222
 Let me turn on the TV.

531
00:19:21.222 --> 00:19:26.522
 And just snort in the corner while you're having fun all night.

532
00:19:26.522 --> 00:19:31.962
 I'm surprised you didn't do that when we went on the paranormal investigation.

533
00:19:31.962 --> 00:19:33.982
 Find a corner to go sleeping.

534
00:19:33.982 --> 00:19:35.702
 Don't dare me.

535
00:19:35.702 --> 00:19:38.462
 That's what I need to do.

536
00:19:38.462 --> 00:19:39.842
 Start a...

537
00:19:39.842 --> 00:19:42.422
 Like a diary of weird places I fall asleep at.

538
00:19:42.422 --> 00:19:44.022
 The bathroom.

539
00:19:44.022 --> 00:19:44.942
 The bathroom.

540
00:19:44.942 --> 00:19:49.002
 And write little stories about when I fell asleep in these certain places.

541
00:19:49.002 --> 00:19:54.362
 Oh, gosh.

542
00:19:54.362 --> 00:19:55.002
 Okay.

543
00:19:55.002 --> 00:19:57.702
 Do you meditate?

544
00:19:57.702 --> 00:19:59.222
 No.

545
00:19:59.222 --> 00:20:00.462
 I can't meditate.

546
00:20:00.462 --> 00:20:02.562
 Pay attention to the...

547
00:20:02.562 --> 00:20:04.362
 You fall asleep in five minutes.

548
00:20:04.362 --> 00:20:06.942
 I can't watch TV without falling asleep.

549
00:20:06.942 --> 00:20:09.102
 Let alone try to act like I'm sleeping.

550
00:20:09.102 --> 00:20:09.782
 Come on now.

551
00:20:09.782 --> 00:20:11.082
 I'd be out cold.

552
00:20:11.082 --> 00:20:13.922
 Do you meditate?

553
00:20:13.922 --> 00:20:21.422
 I do remember an episode of Stargate where this woman was trying to teach this guy how to meditate.

554
00:20:21.422 --> 00:20:23.002
 And he started snoring.

555
00:20:23.002 --> 00:20:23.482
 Yeah.

556
00:20:23.482 --> 00:20:24.462
 That would be me.

557
00:20:24.462 --> 00:20:24.922
 I would.

558
00:20:24.922 --> 00:20:25.362
 I would.

559
00:20:25.362 --> 00:20:28.662
 How do you feel great if rested?

560
00:20:28.662 --> 00:20:30.642
 Yeah.

561
00:20:30.642 --> 00:20:30.962
 I would.

562
00:20:30.962 --> 00:20:31.222
 Yeah.

563
00:20:31.222 --> 00:20:34.802
 But I have meditated pretty much all my life.

564
00:20:34.802 --> 00:20:36.602
 Does it help?

565
00:20:39.662 --> 00:20:40.182
 No.

566
00:20:40.182 --> 00:20:44.842
 The kind of meditation that I do where you try to force all thoughts out of your head,

567
00:20:44.842 --> 00:20:52.062
 I think is good when you're anxious about something or overthinking something.

568
00:20:52.062 --> 00:20:52.582
 Okay.

569
00:20:52.582 --> 00:20:58.522
 Like when you're laying in bed trying to sleep and all of the worries of the universe...

570
00:20:58.522 --> 00:21:00.022
 You know, it's going to crash and down.

571
00:21:00.022 --> 00:21:00.462
 Yeah.

572
00:21:00.462 --> 00:21:02.242
 Okay.

573
00:21:02.242 --> 00:21:04.382
 No, I haven't.

574
00:21:04.382 --> 00:21:08.502
 Have you ever had a successful session with a Ouija board?

575
00:21:08.502 --> 00:21:13.142
 I haven't used a Ouija board since I was like 10 years old.

576
00:21:13.142 --> 00:21:14.542
 Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

577
00:21:14.542 --> 00:21:15.722
 Probably in high school for me.

578
00:21:15.722 --> 00:21:18.722
 And I don't know if they were successful.

579
00:21:18.722 --> 00:21:21.602
 I can imagine one of my dumbass friends was pushing it around.

580
00:21:21.602 --> 00:21:22.702
 Mm-hmm.

581
00:21:22.702 --> 00:21:23.502
 So...

582
00:21:23.502 --> 00:21:24.322
 Yeah, that age.

583
00:21:24.322 --> 00:21:24.882
 Yeah.

584
00:21:24.882 --> 00:21:26.662
 So...

585
00:21:26.662 --> 00:21:28.702
 And I don't know.

586
00:21:28.702 --> 00:21:31.342
 It's something I don't really think I want to mess with.

587
00:21:31.342 --> 00:21:32.022
 Yeah.

588
00:21:32.022 --> 00:21:33.982
 I would not want to start...

589
00:21:33.982 --> 00:21:37.002
 I wouldn't want to open something that I couldn't close again.

590
00:21:37.002 --> 00:21:38.382
 Well, what happens...

591
00:21:38.382 --> 00:21:40.242
 What happens if it's a Nigerian prince asking for money?

592
00:21:40.242 --> 00:21:49.122
 That would be my Ouija board that only gets spam.

593
00:21:49.122 --> 00:21:57.982
 Your mom would buy 10 of them.

594
00:21:57.982 --> 00:21:59.982
 Sorry.

595
00:21:59.982 --> 00:22:05.082
 Oh, I'm sorry.

596
00:22:05.082 --> 00:22:08.262
 Somehow, we can always laugh about...

597
00:22:08.262 --> 00:22:08.522
 Anything.

598
00:22:08.522 --> 00:22:09.462
 Well, we have to.

599
00:22:09.462 --> 00:22:10.342
 That makes it fun.

600
00:22:10.342 --> 00:22:14.802
 Oh, okay.

601
00:22:14.802 --> 00:22:19.342
 Makes me wish that was the last one so we could end on a laugh.

602
00:22:19.342 --> 00:22:19.802
 Yeah.

603
00:22:19.802 --> 00:22:21.242
 Okay.

604
00:22:21.242 --> 00:22:24.542
 Do you wear black 90% or more of the time?

605
00:22:24.542 --> 00:22:27.962
 I don't think they were serious on this question.

606
00:22:27.962 --> 00:22:28.562
 No, no.

607
00:22:28.562 --> 00:22:30.222
 So...

608
00:22:30.222 --> 00:22:35.662
 Because I think what they were trying to say was most of the paranormal people that you

609
00:22:35.662 --> 00:22:37.442
 see on TV, they all wear black.

610
00:22:37.442 --> 00:22:37.902
 Oh, yeah.

611
00:22:38.142 --> 00:22:38.502
 Yeah.

612
00:22:38.502 --> 00:22:45.942
 Now, you remember when we went to the Aviation Museum and I was all prepared and I told you

613
00:22:45.942 --> 00:22:47.842
 you need to wear all black.

614
00:22:47.842 --> 00:22:50.042
 And there was a reason for that.

615
00:22:50.042 --> 00:22:50.542
 What's that?

616
00:22:50.542 --> 00:22:56.082
 It was so if anybody has a camera and is recording, you won't look like a ghost.

617
00:22:56.082 --> 00:22:57.082
 Oh, okay.

618
00:22:57.082 --> 00:23:01.842
 You know, if you're wearing an all-white outfit and you're standing in the background of a

619
00:23:01.842 --> 00:23:04.122
 picture or something, you'd be mistaken for a ghost.

620
00:23:04.122 --> 00:23:05.542
 Oh, that makes sense then.

621
00:23:05.542 --> 00:23:05.942
 Okay.

622
00:23:05.942 --> 00:23:08.022
 That's, I think, mainly why they wear black.

623
00:23:08.022 --> 00:23:08.462
 Yeah, they wear black.

624
00:23:08.462 --> 00:23:08.822
 Okay.

625
00:23:08.822 --> 00:23:10.742
 Probably just because it looks cool.

626
00:23:10.742 --> 00:23:12.582
 Yeah, that makes good sense, though.

627
00:23:12.582 --> 00:23:14.982
 But I do wear black quite a bit.

628
00:23:14.982 --> 00:23:16.722
 I have to wear black for work, so...

629
00:23:16.722 --> 00:23:16.942
 Hmm.

630
00:23:16.942 --> 00:23:17.902
 But I don't...

631
00:23:17.902 --> 00:23:18.062
 Yeah.

632
00:23:18.062 --> 00:23:19.562
 So...

633
00:23:19.562 --> 00:23:22.062
 And I know you don't really wear black, so...

634
00:23:22.062 --> 00:23:23.062
 Um...

635
00:23:23.062 --> 00:23:29.062
 Sometimes, but, um...

636
00:23:29.062 --> 00:23:30.782
 Yeah, but I mean, it's not like you're a goth kid.

637
00:23:30.782 --> 00:23:31.622
 You don't make a point.

638
00:23:31.622 --> 00:23:31.862
 No, no.

639
00:23:31.862 --> 00:23:33.362
 I have other clothes that I wear.

640
00:23:33.362 --> 00:23:36.122
 Yeah, neither one of us would be considered a goth.

641
00:23:36.122 --> 00:23:37.062
 I mean, so...

642
00:23:37.902 --> 00:23:38.322
 All right.

643
00:23:38.322 --> 00:23:40.182
 So, what's your favorite joke this week?

644
00:23:40.182 --> 00:23:44.862
 Why did the gay ghost go to the gay bar alone?

645
00:23:44.862 --> 00:23:48.182
 I have no idea.

646
00:23:48.182 --> 00:23:50.462
 He had no "body" to go with.

647
00:23:50.462 --> 00:23:51.542
 Oh, my God.

648
00:23:51.542 --> 00:23:53.602
 That's like a terrible dad joke.

649
00:23:53.602 --> 00:24:00.262
 And if he's gay, there's probably someone out there that would go with him.

650
00:24:00.262 --> 00:24:05.042
 So...

651
00:24:05.042 --> 00:24:05.522
 Hmm.

652
00:24:05.522 --> 00:24:06.262
 All right.

653
00:24:06.262 --> 00:24:07.862
 This was episode 146.

654
00:24:07.862 --> 00:24:09.922
 146 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

655
00:24:09.922 --> 00:24:10.782
 This is Baehr...

656
00:24:10.782 --> 00:24:11.242
 And Curadh.

657
00:24:11.242 --> 00:24:11.802
 Goodbye.

658
00:24:11.802 --> 00:24:12.242
 Goodbye.

659
00:24:12.242 --> 00:24:13.082
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