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 Hello from Baehr and Curadh, a podcast from the Land of Awes Information Services.

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 I love you, Curadh.

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 I love you, Baehr.

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 This is episode 147 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 We're going to talk about recent news.

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 Pride organizers say sponsors are pulling back amid diversity, equity, and inclusion rollbacks.

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 Not surprised.

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 Are you surprised?

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 No.

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 I'm surprised it's taken someone this long.

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 And a lot of these pride organizations in smaller towns really depend on that sponsorship money.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 It's really too bad.

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 But, um, really, doesn't this tell you who our friends really are?

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 When the publicity that they get for it, um,

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 outweighs,

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 you know,

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 the amount that they're spending,

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 that they're donating.

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 Kind of wears out its welcome.

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 and just because the government is rolling back their diversity programs doesn't mean these companies have to.

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 they're only doing it to gain favor with the administration.

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 why should they?

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 they also,

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 they also possibly want to avoid any bad publicity.

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 I could see some MAGA person saying,

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 you shouldn't be sponsoring these faggots in this parade.

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 I can see it going through their heads.

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 This could be the perfect.

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 Especially when they don't have the support of the current administration.

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 and this is a perfect excuse to get out of it.

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 well, like I just said,

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 who,

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 who's your real friends?

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 You,

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 you find out who they are.

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 When the wind blows another way.

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 You'll see truly how it is.

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 But did you see,

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 did you see that,

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 this is a little sign of how his organization was held $2.2 billion from Harvard?

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 And Harvard went,

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 screw you.

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 We got enough money.

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 We've got $80 billion of our own.

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 I thought that was awesome.

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 And I think it's just going to take time for a lot of other people to do that.

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 For a lot of people to say,

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 most of them will take the money.

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 the larger universities or whatever,

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 some of them can turn around and say no.

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 They have plenty of money or endowments,

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 we find out who our friends are.

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 I would advise everyone listening,

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 even if you don't go to the gay pride events in your town,

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 at least look up who is sponsoring them.

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 And take a moment to send an email to thank that company.

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 Because that one email will speak volumes.

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 Try to visit those places as business,

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 we know who our friends are and who we should buy from.

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 and there's an outbreak again this year.

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 where people can call if they have a question.

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 we've been here before.

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 no matter how bad the situation,

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 it could always be worse.

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 Where just being gay,

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 Pope Francis created a seismic shift

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 I don't know that much about them.

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know that he's been liked.

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 who am I to judge?

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 Sinse, Pope Pious, really.

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 and they're rich,

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 and he moved in all out.

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 He's like,

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 And he basically lives,

295
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 like,

296
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 in a little one-bedroom apartment,

297
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 Like he did in Argentina.

298
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 Like he did in Argentina,

299
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 and, you know,

300
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 and, uh,

301
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 the old pope,

302
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 Benedict,

303
00:08:15.062 --> 00:08:15.882
 he was,

304
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 he was still living right next to him,

305
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 but basically Alzheimer's,

306
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 living the life that,

307
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 you know,

308
00:08:21.322 --> 00:08:21.842
 but, yeah,

309
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 he just,

310
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 I just want to live a very simple,

311
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 safe life,

312
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 blah, blah, blah.

313
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 Except when he's born,

314
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 or when he's buried,

315
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 when he just wants to be buried in the earth,

316
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 out, like,

317
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 in the middle of the pasture,

318
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 or something like that,

319
00:08:32.282 --> 00:08:32.562
 pretty,

320
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 nothing of the grandeur,

321
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 and,

322
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 of, like,

323
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 the other popes,

324
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 and stuff like that.

325
00:08:37.802 --> 00:08:38.482
 So,

326
00:08:38.482 --> 00:08:39.162
 it's kind of neat,

327
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 in my opinion.

328
00:08:39.862 --> 00:08:40.502
 Mm-hmm.

329
00:08:41.042 --> 00:08:41.422
 Mm-hmm.

330
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 World Pride events organizers

331
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 changed their venues

332
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 after Trump's Kennedy Center takeover.

333
00:08:48.242 --> 00:08:48.882
 Hmm.

334
00:08:48.882 --> 00:08:50.922
 World Pride was to be

335
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 at Kennedy Center,

336
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 basically.

337
00:08:52.242 --> 00:08:52.802
 Okay.

338
00:08:52.802 --> 00:08:54.942
 And they found someplace else.

339
00:08:54.942 --> 00:08:55.642
 Okay.

340
00:08:55.642 --> 00:08:57.002
 And I,

341
00:08:57.002 --> 00:08:59.502
 I know that they weren't welcome.

342
00:08:59.502 --> 00:09:00.682
 Really?

343
00:09:00.682 --> 00:09:01.722
 But I suspect

344
00:09:01.722 --> 00:09:02.902
 they

345
00:09:02.902 --> 00:09:05.182
 wanted to make,

346
00:09:05.182 --> 00:09:08.602
 to get out of there anyway,

347
00:09:08.602 --> 00:09:10.482
 but before he could kick them out.

348
00:09:10.782 --> 00:09:11.162
 Really?

349
00:09:11.162 --> 00:09:13.182
 That's too,

350
00:09:13.182 --> 00:09:13.542
 well,

351
00:09:13.542 --> 00:09:14.662
 I guess it's good then,

352
00:09:14.662 --> 00:09:15.022
 though, right?

353
00:09:15.022 --> 00:09:16.402
 Well, I don't know.

354
00:09:16.402 --> 00:09:17.722
 I've never been to World Pride.

355
00:09:17.722 --> 00:09:19.722
 You hardly ever hear anything about it.

356
00:09:19.722 --> 00:09:20.042
 I mean,

357
00:09:20.042 --> 00:09:21.322
 that's the first time I've ever heard about it.

358
00:09:21.322 --> 00:09:23.042
 It's in a different city every year,

359
00:09:23.042 --> 00:09:24.742
 and it just so happens this year

360
00:09:24.742 --> 00:09:26.182
 it's going to be in Washington, D.C.

361
00:09:26.182 --> 00:09:26.582
 Yeah.

362
00:09:26.582 --> 00:09:28.622
 It's the first time I've ever heard about it,

363
00:09:28.622 --> 00:09:28.962
 so.

364
00:09:28.962 --> 00:09:30.602
 Huh.

365
00:09:30.602 --> 00:09:33.302
 I really don't have much to say about it.

366
00:09:33.302 --> 00:09:34.722
 It's sad that

367
00:09:34.722 --> 00:09:37.922
 Trump did to the Kennedy Center

368
00:09:37.922 --> 00:09:39.862
 what he does to his golf courses.

369
00:09:40.162 --> 00:09:41.402
 He takes it over

370
00:09:41.402 --> 00:09:43.202
 and then declares himself king,

371
00:09:43.202 --> 00:09:43.722
 and

372
00:09:43.722 --> 00:09:46.702
 nobody stops him.

373
00:09:46.702 --> 00:09:47.522
 No, no.

374
00:09:47.522 --> 00:09:48.262
 He's a big bully.

375
00:09:48.262 --> 00:09:51.182
 I mean, seriously,

376
00:09:51.182 --> 00:09:52.222
 that's what he is, so.

377
00:09:52.222 --> 00:09:52.542
 Mm-hmm.

378
00:09:52.542 --> 00:09:54.102
 All right.

379
00:09:54.102 --> 00:09:56.842
 World Pride organizers issue travel warnings

380
00:09:56.842 --> 00:09:58.082
 to the transgender community.

381
00:09:58.082 --> 00:10:00.162
 I think that needs to go, yeah.

382
00:10:00.162 --> 00:10:01.662
 Everybody needs to learn.

383
00:10:01.662 --> 00:10:05.282
 Actually, the United States

384
00:10:05.282 --> 00:10:07.402
 should issue a travel advisory

385
00:10:07.402 --> 00:10:08.502
 against itself.

386
00:10:08.502 --> 00:10:09.742
 Pretty much.

387
00:10:09.742 --> 00:10:10.502
 Yeah.

388
00:10:10.502 --> 00:10:12.442
 There's nobody else to do it.

389
00:10:12.442 --> 00:10:12.762
 Yeah.

390
00:10:12.762 --> 00:10:13.702
 Yeah.

391
00:10:13.702 --> 00:10:17.762
 Canada's travel industry has said,

392
00:10:17.762 --> 00:10:19.922
 we do not recommend you visit

393
00:10:19.922 --> 00:10:21.842
 the United States at all.

394
00:10:21.842 --> 00:10:22.702
 Really?

395
00:10:22.702 --> 00:10:23.282
 Mm-hmm.

396
00:10:23.282 --> 00:10:24.842
 It's because we're a political hotbed?

397
00:10:24.842 --> 00:10:25.402
 Mm-hmm.

398
00:10:25.402 --> 00:10:27.762
 Well, you know,

399
00:10:27.762 --> 00:10:30.402
 Trump keeps saying that Canada

400
00:10:30.402 --> 00:10:32.102
 is going to be our 51st state.

401
00:10:32.102 --> 00:10:33.482
 They didn't back away from it today

402
00:10:33.482 --> 00:10:35.542
 on the Marco Rubio's on there,

403
00:10:35.542 --> 00:10:36.722
 and they said, you know,

404
00:10:36.722 --> 00:10:39.602
 so do you think there'd be better,

405
00:10:39.602 --> 00:10:40.802
 or something around it?

406
00:10:40.802 --> 00:10:42.502
 He goes, well, I think there'd be a better state

407
00:10:42.502 --> 00:10:44.602
 if they can't support themselves.

408
00:10:44.602 --> 00:10:47.342
 And it's like, shut the ____ up.

409
00:10:47.342 --> 00:10:47.782
 Sorry.

410
00:10:47.782 --> 00:10:48.962
 And just,

411
00:10:48.962 --> 00:10:53.282
 no, I don't want to go down that road.

412
00:10:53.282 --> 00:10:57.062
 I wouldn't advise any gay people

413
00:10:57.062 --> 00:10:58.202
 to come to the United States.

414
00:10:58.202 --> 00:10:58.822
 No.

415
00:10:58.822 --> 00:10:59.782
 No.

416
00:10:59.782 --> 00:11:02.062
 I wouldn't recommend anyone come here.

417
00:11:02.062 --> 00:11:03.862
 Period.

418
00:11:03.862 --> 00:11:06.682
 I mean, would you?

419
00:11:06.682 --> 00:11:08.122
 No.

420
00:11:08.122 --> 00:11:09.122
 See?

421
00:11:09.122 --> 00:11:12.122
 I mean, what do you mean, good, I mean...

422
00:11:12.122 --> 00:11:14.922
 And how many people from the United States

423
00:11:14.922 --> 00:11:16.222
 are going to go on vacation

424
00:11:16.222 --> 00:11:17.762
 and just never come back?

425
00:11:17.762 --> 00:11:18.942
 Yeah, that's true.

426
00:11:18.942 --> 00:11:21.042
 Just, yeah.

427
00:11:21.042 --> 00:11:23.622
 Can't get back in the country for some reason, or...

428
00:11:23.622 --> 00:11:24.522
 Or don't want to.

429
00:11:24.522 --> 00:11:25.602
 Yeah, that's true.

430
00:11:25.602 --> 00:11:27.602
 There's an idea.

431
00:11:27.602 --> 00:11:28.922
 Where do you want to go on vacation to?

432
00:11:28.922 --> 00:11:31.482
 Mm, Cancun's nice.

433
00:11:31.482 --> 00:11:33.762
 You can't speak a lick of Spanish.

434
00:11:33.762 --> 00:11:34.582
 No.

435
00:11:34.582 --> 00:11:36.902
 You'd stick out like a sore thumb, too.

436
00:11:36.902 --> 00:11:39.102
 So, like, Santa Claus moved to town.

437
00:11:39.102 --> 00:11:39.162
 Yeah.

438
00:11:39.162 --> 00:11:46.342
 And that sounds like your Kansas accent

439
00:11:46.342 --> 00:11:48.622
 would fit in real well with your new language

440
00:11:48.622 --> 00:11:49.502
 that you'd have to learn.

441
00:11:49.502 --> 00:11:51.262
 Hola, amigo.

442
00:11:51.262 --> 00:11:56.422
 Alright.

443
00:11:56.422 --> 00:11:59.062
 The Supreme Court appears posed

444
00:11:59.062 --> 00:12:01.322
 to rule for parents who object

445
00:12:01.322 --> 00:12:04.142
 to gay content in elementary schools.

446
00:12:04.142 --> 00:12:07.462
 Can't say I'm surprised about this, either.

447
00:12:07.462 --> 00:12:07.862
 No.

448
00:12:07.862 --> 00:12:07.962
 No.

449
00:12:07.962 --> 00:12:19.502
 The right has very surreptitiously taken over.

450
00:12:19.502 --> 00:12:23.142
 They were losing at the Supreme Court so often.

451
00:12:23.142 --> 00:12:25.122
 I think they decided to focus on that.

452
00:12:25.122 --> 00:12:26.642
 Okay.

453
00:12:26.642 --> 00:12:27.962
 And get themselves a majority.

454
00:12:27.962 --> 00:12:31.462
 So, you can't bring it to a local level?

455
00:12:31.462 --> 00:12:35.462
 Yeah, if this passes,

456
00:12:35.462 --> 00:12:36.802
 then any parent anywhere would be able...

457
00:12:37.342 --> 00:12:45.682
 would be able to say, we do not want you to have any gay content in any school program.

458
00:12:45.682 --> 00:12:46.562
 Wow.

459
00:12:46.562 --> 00:12:58.122
 Unfortunately, the way they're defining gay content is if gays even exist in the book.

460
00:12:58.122 --> 00:12:59.002
 Really?

461
00:12:59.002 --> 00:13:04.482
 That that's gay content, that that's sexualizing children just because there are gay people

462
00:13:04.482 --> 00:13:05.562
 who exist in the world.

463
00:13:05.562 --> 00:13:06.502
 Wow.

464
00:13:06.502 --> 00:13:09.502
 So, wow.

465
00:13:09.502 --> 00:13:16.282
 So, showing them something that's actually factual, true, in real life is bad now?

466
00:13:16.282 --> 00:13:17.482
 Mm-hmm.

467
00:13:17.482 --> 00:13:19.002
 Ridiculous.

468
00:13:19.002 --> 00:13:23.762
 For instance, you remember reading The Diary of Anne Frank when you were in school?

469
00:13:23.762 --> 00:13:24.242
 Mm-hmm.

470
00:13:24.242 --> 00:13:29.602
 She had some lesbian thoughts that she recorded in her diary.

471
00:13:29.602 --> 00:13:35.002
 They would not be able to read that book in school because of that.

472
00:13:35.002 --> 00:13:35.682
 Wow.

473
00:13:36.382 --> 00:13:37.102
 Just wow.

474
00:13:37.102 --> 00:13:41.842
 Cutting off our nose to spite our face.

475
00:13:41.842 --> 00:13:42.262
 Hmm.

476
00:13:42.262 --> 00:13:43.182
 Seriously.

477
00:13:43.182 --> 00:13:47.542
 It doesn't do kids any good to deny that gay people exist.

478
00:13:47.542 --> 00:13:56.382
 They could become one, you know, or have to deal with gay people and, you know, they need

479
00:13:56.382 --> 00:13:58.082
 to learn how the world works.

480
00:13:58.082 --> 00:13:58.802
 Mm-hmm.

481
00:13:58.802 --> 00:14:00.822
 Yeah, being ignorant is not going to help.

482
00:14:00.822 --> 00:14:02.702
 You know what I mean?

483
00:14:02.702 --> 00:14:04.862
 Do they feel the same way about guns?

484
00:14:04.862 --> 00:14:05.782
 No.

485
00:14:05.782 --> 00:14:06.262
 They don't want...

486
00:14:06.262 --> 00:14:08.302
 They don't want them to know about guns either?

487
00:14:08.302 --> 00:14:08.922
 No.

488
00:14:08.922 --> 00:14:11.922
 I mean, they have active shooter drills.

489
00:14:11.922 --> 00:14:12.602
 Yeah.

490
00:14:12.602 --> 00:14:14.322
 Yeah.

491
00:14:14.322 --> 00:14:19.982
 You know, if kids can stand an active shooter drill, they should be able to understand that

492
00:14:19.982 --> 00:14:20.982
 gay people exist.

493
00:14:20.982 --> 00:14:21.662
 Yeah.

494
00:14:21.662 --> 00:14:22.442
 I agree.

495
00:14:22.442 --> 00:14:26.562
 Full heartedly so.

496
00:14:26.562 --> 00:14:28.642
 All right.

497
00:14:28.642 --> 00:14:30.142
 Where are we at?

498
00:14:30.142 --> 00:14:30.762
 Number seven?

499
00:14:30.762 --> 00:14:31.202
 Mm-hmm.

500
00:14:31.202 --> 00:14:31.682
 Okay.

501
00:14:31.682 --> 00:14:36.142
 Department of Justice will investigate doctors who provide trans care to minors.

502
00:14:36.142 --> 00:14:41.862
 I can't see how that's going to survive any kind of court review.

503
00:14:41.862 --> 00:14:42.922
 Because of HIPAA.

504
00:14:42.922 --> 00:14:45.002
 I mean, privacy laws, right?

505
00:14:45.002 --> 00:14:49.762
 Um, I don't know what that would have to do with it.

506
00:14:49.762 --> 00:14:59.122
 But, um, parents should be able to give their kids whatever kind of health care they need.

507
00:14:59.122 --> 00:14:59.882
 Yeah.

508
00:14:59.882 --> 00:15:04.142
 I mean, they're basically saying until you're 18...

509
00:15:04.142 --> 00:15:05.602
 Yeah, no rights.

510
00:15:05.602 --> 00:15:06.122
 ...you can't be trans.

511
00:15:06.122 --> 00:15:07.222
 You have no rights.

512
00:15:07.222 --> 00:15:08.002
 Yeah.

513
00:15:08.002 --> 00:15:15.122
 And, um, kids who need puberty blockers...

514
00:15:15.122 --> 00:15:16.202
 Yeah.

515
00:15:16.202 --> 00:15:17.942
 ...need them well before they're 18.

516
00:15:17.942 --> 00:15:18.322
 Yeah.

517
00:15:18.322 --> 00:15:23.582
 By the time they're eligible to get their own health care, it's too late.

518
00:15:23.582 --> 00:15:24.022
 Yeah.

519
00:15:24.022 --> 00:15:29.242
 Everything's already, yeah, done and taken its toll.

520
00:15:29.242 --> 00:15:32.042
 It's so sad.

521
00:15:32.042 --> 00:15:34.322
 People shouldn't have to deal with that.

522
00:15:36.002 --> 00:15:41.322
 This thing of, think of the children, that's what the religious people cry all the time.

523
00:15:41.322 --> 00:15:42.182
 Think of the children.

524
00:15:42.182 --> 00:15:42.902
 Mm-hmm.

525
00:15:42.902 --> 00:15:47.322
 How should I have to explain to my kids that men get married to each other?

526
00:15:47.322 --> 00:15:48.142
 Mm-hmm.

527
00:15:48.142 --> 00:15:49.722
 Yeah.

528
00:15:49.722 --> 00:15:55.022
 It's something they don't want to discuss, so it's easier to just get rid of it than deal with it.

529
00:15:55.022 --> 00:15:55.642
 Mm-hmm.

530
00:15:55.642 --> 00:15:57.902
 Just like they don't want them to...

531
00:15:57.902 --> 00:16:01.662
 They think that if they don't know about sex that they won't have any.

532
00:16:01.662 --> 00:16:02.282
 Yeah.

533
00:16:02.282 --> 00:16:05.902
 No, normally with the cases...

534
00:16:05.902 --> 00:16:09.102
 ...they're more interested in having it because they're not supposed to be doing it.

535
00:16:09.102 --> 00:16:09.342
 Mm-hmm.

536
00:16:09.342 --> 00:16:09.642
 Mm-hmm.

537
00:16:09.642 --> 00:16:14.102
 So, that's why you have these kids, babies having babies and stuff like that, so...

538
00:16:14.102 --> 00:16:14.262
 Mm-hmm.

539
00:16:14.262 --> 00:16:23.562
 Last of Us star Pedro Pascal calls J.K. Rowling's anti-trans social posts heinous.

540
00:16:23.562 --> 00:16:25.362
 I agree.

541
00:16:25.362 --> 00:16:28.062
 So, you want to move on to the next?

542
00:16:28.062 --> 00:16:29.082
 No.

543
00:16:29.082 --> 00:16:32.002
 I mean, do you have anything to say about it?

544
00:16:32.002 --> 00:16:33.302
 I know you don't...

545
00:16:35.782 --> 00:16:45.662
 Oftentimes, I wonder why celebrities need to involve themselves in things, you know, that they're not directly...

546
00:16:45.662 --> 00:16:46.382
 Involved in.

547
00:16:46.382 --> 00:16:50.442
 I believe Pedro Pascal has a brother or sister who's trans.

548
00:16:50.442 --> 00:16:51.182
 Trans sister.

549
00:16:51.182 --> 00:16:52.522
 Sister who's trans.

550
00:16:52.522 --> 00:16:57.822
 So, he's taking her on plenty of red-carpet dates and stuff like that.

551
00:16:57.822 --> 00:16:59.922
 He's a very...

552
00:16:59.922 --> 00:17:02.202
 He's an advocate for the community.

553
00:17:02.202 --> 00:17:02.762
 Mm-hmm.

554
00:17:02.762 --> 00:17:03.182
 So...

555
00:17:03.182 --> 00:17:04.122
 And that's what it takes.

556
00:17:04.122 --> 00:17:05.662
 It takes somebody who knows...

557
00:17:05.662 --> 00:17:06.782
 Mm-hmm.

558
00:17:06.782 --> 00:17:11.562
 That's why for so, so, so many years, we told people, come out.

559
00:17:11.562 --> 00:17:12.142
 Mm-hmm.

560
00:17:12.142 --> 00:17:16.722
 Come out to everyone that you can, because people will say, well, I don't know any gay people.

561
00:17:16.722 --> 00:17:16.982
 Mm-hmm.

562
00:17:16.982 --> 00:17:19.022
 They didn't know that they knew any gay people.

563
00:17:19.022 --> 00:17:19.682
 Yeah, exactly.

564
00:17:19.682 --> 00:17:20.402
 Yeah.

565
00:17:20.402 --> 00:17:21.162
 You're right.

566
00:17:21.162 --> 00:17:23.762
 You know, people are still doing it, though.

567
00:17:23.762 --> 00:17:31.602
 And Pedro Pascal's not only known for Last of Us, but for a lot of things.

568
00:17:31.602 --> 00:17:32.082
 Mm-hmm.

569
00:17:32.082 --> 00:17:35.382
 So, a lot of people probably recognize his name.

570
00:17:35.542 --> 00:17:37.522
 And it doesn't hurt.

571
00:17:37.522 --> 00:17:39.582
 No, no.

572
00:17:39.582 --> 00:17:44.622
 To get some positive publicity out of it.

573
00:17:44.622 --> 00:17:45.782
 No, I agree completely.

574
00:17:45.782 --> 00:17:51.482
 So, she just needs to pull Harry Potter and disappear.

575
00:17:51.482 --> 00:17:53.122
 Just go away.

576
00:17:53.122 --> 00:17:58.922
 Seriously, I mean, I really think, I mean, it's a shame.

577
00:17:58.922 --> 00:18:01.962
 So, what's the spell that they say to make somebody disappear?

578
00:18:01.962 --> 00:18:03.282
 Oh, I have no idea.

579
00:18:03.282 --> 00:18:04.502
 Get the ____ out of here.

580
00:18:05.422 --> 00:18:07.502
 I'm sorry.

581
00:18:07.502 --> 00:18:12.722
 I have two words now that I have to censor.

582
00:18:12.722 --> 00:18:16.722
 Well, I hope they get the point when they hear what I'm trying to say.

583
00:18:16.722 --> 00:18:19.962
 All right.

584
00:18:19.962 --> 00:18:24.222
 Women's sports bars are expected to quadruple across the U.S. in 2025.

585
00:18:24.222 --> 00:18:27.162
 I don't know why that's considered gay news.

586
00:18:27.162 --> 00:18:32.762
 Do they think women's sports bars are all lesbians?

587
00:18:32.762 --> 00:18:33.862
 I suppose.

588
00:18:33.862 --> 00:18:35.402
 I guess that's what they're trying to say.

589
00:18:35.402 --> 00:18:37.642
 But that's kind of funny.

590
00:18:37.642 --> 00:18:43.602
 I mean, I would expect it more if it was the Women's World Cup that's taking place here.

591
00:18:43.602 --> 00:18:45.262
 Hmm.

592
00:18:45.262 --> 00:18:47.462
 You know what the Women's World Cup is?

593
00:18:47.462 --> 00:18:54.162
 Isn't this based mostly on basketball?

594
00:18:54.162 --> 00:18:58.422
 Women's basketball is more popular than it's ever been before.

595
00:18:58.422 --> 00:18:59.042
 It could be.

596
00:18:59.042 --> 00:19:00.962
 Or it has something to do with women's soccer.

597
00:19:00.962 --> 00:19:02.682
 Okay.

598
00:19:02.682 --> 00:19:03.482
 I don't know.

599
00:19:03.482 --> 00:19:03.902
 I don't know.

600
00:19:03.902 --> 00:19:05.102
 It has to do something with that.

601
00:19:05.102 --> 00:19:05.282
 I can't remember.

602
00:19:05.282 --> 00:19:05.842
 I can't guarantee it.

603
00:19:05.842 --> 00:19:06.422
 Hmm.

604
00:19:06.422 --> 00:19:07.022
 I don't know.

605
00:19:07.022 --> 00:19:11.162
 I'm probably going to sound like a misogynistic pig, but I don't know.

606
00:19:11.162 --> 00:19:12.262
 It has to be.

607
00:19:12.262 --> 00:19:16.562
 Well, I'm in favor of them having their own places.

608
00:19:16.562 --> 00:19:17.642
 Hell yeah.

609
00:19:17.642 --> 00:19:22.742
 I can see there's going to be a women's sports bar where they're going to say women only

610
00:19:22.742 --> 00:19:24.762
 and transgendered women no.

611
00:19:24.762 --> 00:19:25.522
 Yeah.

612
00:19:25.522 --> 00:19:27.062
 That happens a lot.

613
00:19:27.062 --> 00:19:27.702
 Does it really?

614
00:19:27.702 --> 00:19:28.202
 Mm-hmm.

615
00:19:28.202 --> 00:19:29.182
 That's too bad.

616
00:19:29.182 --> 00:19:31.202
 All right.

617
00:19:31.202 --> 00:19:35.062
 The United Kingdom's highest court rules.

618
00:19:35.062 --> 00:19:39.442
 It's that the law defines a woman as someone born biologically female.

619
00:19:39.442 --> 00:19:42.042
 Mm-hmm.

620
00:19:42.042 --> 00:19:43.782
 I'm very surprised by this.

621
00:19:43.782 --> 00:19:44.162
 Why?

622
00:19:44.162 --> 00:19:48.482
 Because Europe is usually far ahead of us in these social issues.

623
00:19:48.482 --> 00:19:48.902
 Yeah.

624
00:19:48.902 --> 00:19:53.222
 So, this is kind of screwed up.

625
00:19:53.222 --> 00:19:55.082
 Don't you think?

626
00:19:55.082 --> 00:19:58.862
 Yeah, because it's gone as high as it can go in their country.

627
00:19:58.862 --> 00:19:59.062
 Mm-hmm.

628
00:19:59.062 --> 00:19:59.302
 Yep.

629
00:19:59.302 --> 00:20:05.042
 And given the opportunity, I think our Supreme Court would do the same thing.

630
00:20:05.342 --> 00:20:05.782
 Mm-hmm.

631
00:20:05.782 --> 00:20:08.002
 I agree with you.

632
00:20:08.002 --> 00:20:13.842
 And then it'd be 50 years of living with that before anybody could fix it.

633
00:20:13.842 --> 00:20:14.542
 Mm-hmm.

634
00:20:14.542 --> 00:20:15.362
 Exactly.

635
00:20:15.362 --> 00:20:17.782
 I mean, it's for people.

636
00:20:17.782 --> 00:20:19.182
 Mm-hmm.

637
00:20:19.182 --> 00:20:20.282
 That's so sad.

638
00:20:20.282 --> 00:20:22.482
 So very sad.

639
00:20:22.482 --> 00:20:25.682
 Well, the only thing we can do is hope to keep it away from here.

640
00:20:25.682 --> 00:20:27.742
 You know what I mean?

641
00:20:27.742 --> 00:20:29.742
 What do you mean, keep it away from here?

642
00:20:29.742 --> 00:20:34.682
 Well, hopefully keep trans rights going here in the States, at least.

643
00:20:34.682 --> 00:20:35.022
 Yeah.

644
00:20:35.022 --> 00:20:35.262
 You know what I mean?

645
00:20:35.262 --> 00:20:35.682
 Mm-hmm.

646
00:20:35.682 --> 00:20:40.182
 Of all the issues, all the social issues, that's the biggest hot button.

647
00:20:40.182 --> 00:20:40.682
 Yeah.

648
00:20:40.682 --> 00:20:44.762
 And it's just because they don't have an organized defense.

649
00:20:44.762 --> 00:20:45.362
 Mm-hmm.

650
00:20:45.362 --> 00:20:47.142
 Yeah.

651
00:20:47.142 --> 00:20:51.922
 It's an easy target.

652
00:20:51.922 --> 00:20:52.882
 Mm-hmm.

653
00:20:52.882 --> 00:20:53.502
 That's sad.

654
00:20:53.502 --> 00:20:56.122
 Just like gay people were.

655
00:20:56.122 --> 00:20:58.002
 Back in the 80s, 70s, and 80s.

656
00:20:58.002 --> 00:20:58.262
 Yeah.

657
00:20:58.262 --> 00:20:58.922
 You're right.

658
00:20:58.922 --> 00:21:02.502
 So, we've got to be able to step up and back them up.

659
00:21:02.502 --> 00:21:04.022
 Yes.

660
00:21:04.022 --> 00:21:04.122
 Yes.

661
00:21:04.122 --> 00:21:11.782
 And expect the trans community to strengthen by this.

662
00:21:11.782 --> 00:21:12.342
 Mm-hmm.

663
00:21:12.342 --> 00:21:16.982
 Because they're going to be forced to organize where they weren't before.

664
00:21:16.982 --> 00:21:17.762
 Mm-hmm.

665
00:21:17.762 --> 00:21:19.902
 100% agree.

666
00:21:19.902 --> 00:21:25.042
 So, in the long run, the religious right's going to lose.

667
00:21:25.042 --> 00:21:25.722
 Mm-hmm.

668
00:21:25.722 --> 00:21:26.922
 Yeah.

669
00:21:26.922 --> 00:21:28.642
 It may take 50 years.

670
00:21:28.642 --> 00:21:29.562
 But it's going to happen.

671
00:21:29.562 --> 00:21:30.642
 It's going to happen, yeah.

672
00:21:30.642 --> 00:21:33.642
 What is King's...

673
00:21:33.642 --> 00:21:41.222
 It's, quote, the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice.

674
00:21:41.222 --> 00:21:41.722
 Mm-hmm.

675
00:21:41.722 --> 00:21:42.642
 Yeah.

676
00:21:42.642 --> 00:21:44.082
 You always get the good ones to say.

677
00:21:44.082 --> 00:21:45.982
 Okay.

678
00:21:45.982 --> 00:21:51.062
 Gay people find confidence in community in self-defense classes.

679
00:21:51.062 --> 00:21:53.282
 Isn't that the idea behind them?

680
00:21:53.282 --> 00:21:53.722
 Yeah.

681
00:21:53.722 --> 00:21:55.202
 I'm all for it.

682
00:21:55.202 --> 00:21:55.622
 Mm-hmm.

683
00:21:55.622 --> 00:21:57.342
 Would you take a self-defense class?

684
00:21:57.342 --> 00:21:57.882
 Yeah.

685
00:21:57.882 --> 00:21:59.302
 Yeah, I think I would.

686
00:21:59.302 --> 00:22:03.482
 During the AIDS crisis, that became...

687
00:22:03.482 --> 00:22:05.022
 That became a really big thing, too.

688
00:22:05.022 --> 00:22:05.582
 Really?

689
00:22:05.582 --> 00:22:06.262
 Mm-hmm.

690
00:22:06.262 --> 00:22:13.142
 Not just for learning how to defend yourself, but also, you know, the communities that surrounds it.

691
00:22:13.142 --> 00:22:13.722
 Mm-hmm.

692
00:22:13.722 --> 00:22:14.962
 Yeah.

693
00:22:14.962 --> 00:22:17.962
 People make good lifelong friends that way.

694
00:22:17.962 --> 00:22:18.642
 Yeah.

695
00:22:18.642 --> 00:22:20.062
 Oh, yeah.

696
00:22:20.062 --> 00:22:22.902
 There's a lot of camaraderie and stuff like that.

697
00:22:22.902 --> 00:22:23.302
 Mm-hmm.

698
00:22:23.302 --> 00:22:29.062
 I'm sad that it's necessary, but I think it's a good idea.

699
00:22:29.062 --> 00:22:31.422
 Yeah, I mean, it's better than carrying a weapon around.

700
00:22:31.422 --> 00:22:32.642
 Yeah.

701
00:22:32.642 --> 00:22:32.702
 Yeah.

702
00:22:32.702 --> 00:22:35.102
 So many people want to carry a gun.

703
00:22:35.102 --> 00:22:36.742
 I'm not comfortable with that.

704
00:22:36.742 --> 00:22:37.242
 Me neither.

705
00:22:37.242 --> 00:22:39.422
 So, I'm glad you aren't.

706
00:22:39.422 --> 00:22:43.602
 So, there's too many times I think you might have shot me already.

707
00:22:43.602 --> 00:22:51.942
 No, I think it's good that people are finding, you know, confidence in this community.

708
00:22:51.942 --> 00:22:54.202
 It reminds me of back when I rowed.

709
00:22:54.202 --> 00:22:58.022
 I found a lot of confidence in there's a community in what I rowed

710
00:22:58.022 --> 00:22:58.862
 You know what I mean?

711
00:22:58.862 --> 00:23:01.142
 Being part of a group.

712
00:23:01.142 --> 00:23:02.382
 Being part of something.

713
00:23:02.582 --> 00:23:03.342
 Larger than yourself.

714
00:23:03.342 --> 00:23:04.902
 So, it was a lot of fun.

715
00:23:04.902 --> 00:23:06.762
 So, I think it's great.

716
00:23:06.762 --> 00:23:08.782
 I can offer anything like that.

717
00:23:08.782 --> 00:23:09.222
 Mm-hmm.

718
00:23:09.222 --> 00:23:11.022
 So, all right.

719
00:23:11.022 --> 00:23:13.082
 Do you have a joke for us this week?

720
00:23:13.082 --> 00:23:17.462
 What do you get when you cross an elephant and a skunk?

721
00:23:17.462 --> 00:23:19.922
 Hmm.

722
00:23:19.922 --> 00:23:22.142
 Be nice.

723
00:23:22.142 --> 00:23:23.362
 I don't know.

724
00:23:23.362 --> 00:23:26.562
 A smell that you'll never forget.

725
00:23:26.562 --> 00:23:28.902
 God.

726
00:23:28.902 --> 00:23:32.382
 You're a dork.

727
00:23:32.382 --> 00:23:35.662
 I get it.

728
00:23:41.162 --> 00:23:42.062
 This is Baehr.

729
00:23:42.062 --> 00:23:42.842
 This is Curadh.

730
00:23:42.842 --> 00:23:43.302
 Goodbye.

731
00:23:43.302 --> 00:23:43.702
 Goodbye.

732
00:23:43.702 --> 00:23:44.542
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734
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