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 Hello from Baehr and Curadh, a podcast from the Land of Awes Information Services.

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 I love you Curadh. I love you Baehr. This is episode 151 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 We're going to talk about the top gay movies. This should be interesting, I think. I'm excited

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 about this. Well, I'm not very good at this though. Me neither. And I started out with

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 like a list of a hundred gay movies and by the time I whittled out all the ones I'd never

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 heard of, I was down to 25. Okay, I'll be interested to know if I know most of these

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 or not. Okay. You want me to start or do you want to start? You start. Okay, the first

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 one we got is Airplane, 1980. The classic parody of 70s disaster flicks. There's a character

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 named Johnny portrayed by gay actor Stephen Stucker. In the film, Johnny is a worker in

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 the control tower helping to save a man a plane. Johnny is gay. He is hilariously stereotypically

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 gay.

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 You think so? I think it is. It's over the top, I think. It's freaking hilarious, I mean.

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 Especially considering 1980. Yeah, I mean it was ahead of its time. It does not portray

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 gay people in a very good light. No, no, but there's a lot of things that... It's a parody.

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 Yeah, yeah. People get upset about a lot of things, but if you can't laugh at yourself,

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 who can you laugh at? It's kind of like saying that Friends is terrible because it has a

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 few anti-gay jokes. Yeah, you've got to look at the majority of it, you know. There's worse

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 things. I mean, you look at some of the stuff from the 80s, like Sixteen Candles, for instance,

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 when the Japanese character climbing in a tree with a bonsai. What was his name? Long

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 Duck Dong? Long Duck Dong, yeah. Yeah, and he had the... Yeah, they put the bonsai bandana

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 around him, and yeah.

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 I mean, the whole squinty eyes, yeah. And when you think about it, Airplane was a parody,

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 so they're actually making fun of gay stereotypes. Yeah, yeah. So, there's a lot of good one-liners

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 like we were talking about before. Like what? You ever seen a grown man naked, Bobby? Do

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 you like gladiator movies? Do you like gladiator movies? It's hilarious, I mean. It's just,

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 yeah.

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 It's just, it's one of those, just classic movies, just, you can't beat it. I mean, it's,

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 I want to watch it now again. But it's one of those that just, a lot of movies don't

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 hold up. And it's, Airplane's held up, I think. And who would have thought that this would

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 be on the list of gay movies? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, it's kind of interesting seeing

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 that.

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 Okay. Scary movie, year 2000.

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 Although the Wayans brothers have a history of hilariously gay comedy in their films,

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 they've reached their apex with the character of Ray, portrayed by Sean Mayans.

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 Wayans. Sean Wayans.

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 Wayans, in Scary Movie 1 and 2. The character of Ray is a jock. He's a jock who has all

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 the stereotypical earmarks of a flaming homosexual, yet he doesn't believe himself to be gay.

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 I've never seen any of these movies. I've never, they're out there. I've seen probably

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 highlights from them.

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 But I don't think I've ever sat down and watched one.

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 I would have thought you were a big fan of scary movies.

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 I mean, the real scary movie, yeah. I mean, but yeah. Isn't this the one with the girl

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 from Mom?

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 It's the, oh, I don't know.

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 Mina Faris?

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 It's the one with the character in a...

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 Ghostface?

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 Kind of like a Grim Reaper outfit.

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 Yeah, the Ghostface outfit.

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 But it's a parody on scary movies also.

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 Yes.

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 Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I've never watched that one.

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 I never have either, but I know of it.

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 We went to a Mexican food place once, and I was wearing a shirt that had that figure

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 on the front of it.

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 Ghostface.

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 And he just went, our server, who's obviously gay, just went, he had a tattoo of...

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 Of Ghostface on it.

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 On his arm.

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 Yeah. He has that because of the Scream movies. The original Ghostface is a killer, and he's

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 more of the... I think he's... In the scary movies, it's doing a parody of the scary movies

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 called Scream, which were real big in the 90s.

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 And Ghostface is the killer, kind of like how Michael Myers was in Halloween. You know

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 Michael Myers is, right?

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Jason, he's the dantier. He's the bad guy. He's the killer in all the shows. He wears

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 that mask.

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 He wears that mask. So the guy, the waiter, he was more of a fan about the Ghostface killer

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 from the movies, I think.

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 So not the parody, but the movie that they're parodying.

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 Yeah, exactly.

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 Do you know anything about Sean Waynes?

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 Not much. I just know...

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 Is he one of the Waynes brothers?

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 Yeah. There's like five or six of them, I think.

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 So he's probably playing gay.

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 Yeah. I think he's one of the younger brothers.

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 Speaking of playing gay, the guy in the airplane, Stevens Tucker, he died just recently.

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 Oh, really? I didn't know that.

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 Brokeback Mountain. Two young men forge a deep bond while herding sheep on Brokeback

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 Mountain, leading to a complex and secretive romantic relationship that spans over decades.

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 Yeah, a very good movie.

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 Did you watch it?

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 I guess you could say it's a very good movie.

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 Who was the director?

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 Yang Li.

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 Yang Li.

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 Who's done lots of really great movies.

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 But I don't know.

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 This one sort of glorified a closet relationship.

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 Yeah. Well, you've got to think of the time and span that they were covering.

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 You know what I mean?

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 It was a no-no.

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 Even when it was filmed, and it was portraying probably in the '50s, so it was pretty difficult

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 to have a gay relationship back then.

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 Very difficult. That movie wrecked me. I cried like a baby.

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 Oh, yeah. It was so sad.

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 It was so tragic. It was just very, very sad. I've only seen it a handful of times, because

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 I generally don't want to put myself through that.

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 What was that last line? I don't know how to...

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 I can't fix you. Or, I can't quit you.

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 I can't quit you.

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 We need to save that to Trump.

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 God. You had to go there, didn't you?

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 The whole mood in the room just deflated.

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 Call Me By Your Name, 2017.

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 Set in 1980s Italy, a passionate summer romance blossoms between a young boy and his father's American assistant,

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 exploring themes of love and love.

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 Do you know who's in this?

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 No, I don't.

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 You don't?

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 No. You probably know more about it than I do.

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 It's Armie Hammer and... what's his name? I'm picturing his face. He was in Dune.

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 Yeah, I know.

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 He played Bob Dylan.

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 I know who you're talking about, but...

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 What's his name?

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 I can't think of his name.

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 It's going to drive me crazy. But he plays in it, too.

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 He played Bob Dylan.

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 Yeah, I know.

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 He played Bob Dylan.

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 I know who you're talking about, but I can't think of his name.

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 It's going to drive me crazy. But he plays in it, too.

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 Yeah, I know.

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 He plays in it, too.

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 Yeah, I know.

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 He played Bob Dylan.

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 Yeah, I know.

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 He played Bob Dylan.

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 I know who you're talking about, but...

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 What's his name?

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 I can't think of his name.

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 It's going to drive me crazy. But he plays in it, too. So, um, Shal... Shal... Shal... Shalameen?

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 Oh. That's his last name, right?

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 Yeah, Timothee Chalamet.

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 Timothee Chalamet.

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 Timothee Chalamet.

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 Timothee Chalamet.

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 Timothee Chalamet.

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 Timothee Chalamet.

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 Okay. Okay. So, there. I thought of it.

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 Well, these... this movie...

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 Oh.

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 So, uh, Armie Hammer is kind of, um, problemistic right now.

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 He's very.

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 Oh, I think he's starting to come back from that, but for quite a while he was sort of,

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 uh, persona non grata in Hollywood.

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 Yeah, he had a very bad image.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 And he's a very attractive man, but apparently he's very, uh...

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 You think so?

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 I think he's attractive. I think... I mean, he's not gorgeous, but I mean, I think he's

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 a... he's not ugly.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 You know, when it's thrown away.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 But he's, uh, from what I understand, he's got a little bit of a... a freak side.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 That's... that's the images that he's got in Hollywood, so...

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 Mm-hmm.

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 But I don't know. I don't know him personally, so I could care less.

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 Me neither.

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 The Handmaiden. Now, this is probably not the handmaiden you were thinking of.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 In 1930s Korea, a con woman is hired to be the handmaiden to a Japanese international

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 to a Japanese heiress, but their relationship becomes complicated as they develop feelings

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 Hmm.

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 No, nothing... I've heard of it, never watched it.

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 Mm, me too. Um, but probably don't watch a whole lot of lesbian movies.

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 No. Not at all.

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 I don't know. I can't fault myself for that, but I... I can't say it's something I've strived

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 Mm-hmm.

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 It's just that there's a lot of movies to watch and...

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 Yeah, cause there's only so much time in the day.

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 Love, Simon. 2018. A high school student navigates life, love, and coming out to his friends

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 and family, all while trying to uncover the identity of his anonymous online crush.

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 Don't know.

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 I don't think I've ever seen it either.

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 No, I know. I know I haven't.

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 It kind of sounds like the Sixteen Candles of recent days.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Which is not... not gonna be my thing anymore.

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 My Own Private Idaho, 1991. Two friends, one of whom is a narcoleptic street hustler, embark

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 on a journey of self-discovery...

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 I'm a terrible fag.

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 I haven't seen that movie either.

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 I've heard a lot about it.

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 I've heard a lot about it, too, but I don't...

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 The plot doesn't sound familiar to me.

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 So I probably have not seen it.

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 Yeah, I remember when it came out, it made a big stink because of what it was covering.

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 I remember that.

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 It was more of an artsy film, but it was...

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 Hmm.

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 I remember hearing a lot about it, but I never... never saw it.

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 That's probably something...

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 Hmm.

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 Hmm.

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 Hmm.

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 I have seen a lot of movies with Mark Ruffalo in it just because he's in it and he's pretty

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 good to look at.

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 Yeah.

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 But I have not seen this movie.

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 Uh-huh.

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 Maurice.

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 1987.

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 That's a long time ago.

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 In early 20th century England, a young man grapples with his homosexuality in a society

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 that condemns it, leading to a life-altering decision.

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 Hmm.

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 There must be a cliffhanger.

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 Or something.

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 'Cause they don't want to say how it ended.

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 Mm-hmm.

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 Yeah.

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 Yeah.

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 I don't know about that one either.

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 It's a movie I've heard of, but I've never seen.

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 It sounds like something I don't know if I want to see, because by the end of it, leading

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 to a life-altering decision, it sounds like it's a cliffhanger.

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 And I'll bet it's an artsy kind of film too.

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 Probably.

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 All right.

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 But I'm a cheerleader.

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 1999.

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 A high school cheerleader is sent to a conversion therapy camp when her parents have said,

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 "Be careful.

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 You'll get hurt."

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 I'm a cheerleader.

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 I don't know.

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 I don't know.

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 1999. A high school cheerleader

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 is sent to a conversion therapy camp when her

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 parents suspect she's a lesbian,

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 leading to comedic and heartfelt relations.

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 Yeah, I think

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 we've both heard of this. Okay.

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 I don't think either one of us

303
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 has seen it, though. I haven't seen it either.

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 It's like you said,

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 there's not, it's,

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 I can't relate to lesbian movies,

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 so it's hard for me to watch them. That's probably

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 part of my character flaw, but...

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 Except this one's a comedy.

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 I'm picky about comedies, though. I'm terrible.

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 I'm terrible at comedies. I really am.

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 I mean, I couldn't tell you that

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 the last time I sat down and watched something

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 besides, like, stand-up comedy.

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 I'll watch stand-up all day long, but I couldn't tell you

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 the last time I've seen, like, a

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 sit-down, laugh-out-like

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 comedy. Because I find them to be

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 redundant, and most of the time, like you said,

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 most of the time the funny stuff you see is all

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 in commercials. Oh, yes.

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 So it's very... I remember

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 in my teenage years, there was a

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 movie called

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 The...

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 The something...

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 She...

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 Like, The Bad Guy, or

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 something like that. It was a western.

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 And

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 you watch the commercials

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 on TV for it, it looks like it's

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 a laugh a minute.

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 But when you get to the theater, you realize

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 all the funny jokes were in that commercial.

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 Yep, exactly.

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 Yeah, it's just not... And it's been like that for

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 quite a while. I mean, and I think

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 a lot of it has to do with just society in general.

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 I mean, people...

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 People... There's movies that were out in the

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 90s and 2000s. There were only 2000s

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 that they were never shown nowadays

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 because it would offend people.

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 You know what I mean? So people... Well, I don't know.

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 We're probably coming around on that.

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 Probably. I think people are ready to

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 line up a little bit more, hopefully, but...

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 Well, I just mean

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 DEI is not supposed to

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 be a thing anymore. Yeah.

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 Yeah, that's true. So, I mean,

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 it's... Like I said, you gotta laugh at yourself

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 sometimes. Mm-hmm. But there

355
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 is a line that can be crossed, so I'm gonna understand

356
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 that, too. And this is a movie

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 that I think we should watch.

358
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 I'm... Put on my cheerleader? Yeah.

359
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 Okay. All right.

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 Paris is Burning, 1990.

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 A documentary

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 capturing the vibrant drag ball

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 culture of New York City in the

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 late 1980s.

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 Highlighting themes of

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 race, class, and gender.

367
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 Hmm. Okay.

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 I've heard

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 things about this over and over and over and over

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 again, but it's not a subject that I

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 think I would be interested in.

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 Yeah, I... It'd be one

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 of those I'd have to have a full nap during

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 that day and then watch it, because I have a feeling...

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 You'd fall asleep. I'd fall asleep. I know I would.

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 I know I would.

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 So, but this does remind me of

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 this TikTok or whatever. I wanted

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 to tell you about this. I'm sorry to bring it up now, but

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 they were doing a TikTok

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 and it said, if Stonewall

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 was filmed today,

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 and they basically did

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 videos of, like, TikToks

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 of, like, burning the buildings,

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 you know, and drag queens standing up, like,

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 no, this is happening now. Like, it was actually...

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 They were filming it like it was actually at

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 Stonewall and interviewing people

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 and they're like, you know, we had to do this. They were holding this back.

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 Is that what the Stonewall movie is?

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 I don't know. I don't know.

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 I've not seen it. It gave me the chills watching it.

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 It was, like, it was pretty cool. It was a really long

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 video and it was just, you know, drag queens

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 coming out and, like, you know what? We're tired of this.

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 We had to stand up for our rights and

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 basically social media was around back

399
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 then and now...

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 This is on TikTok? This is on TikTok.

401
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 This video is, yeah. And I'm not likely to see it.

402
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 No. If I can find it, I'll pull it up

403
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 because I think you'd find it neat. It's just...

404
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 But it's all make-believe, but it's if

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 it was at Stonewall happened today

406
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 with, like, social media and how...

407
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 That sounds like a great idea.

408
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 It's really neat. I think you would really

409
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 like it and show, you know, it's

410
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 all make-believe, but it looks like

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 it's real. Like, you know, it's...

412
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 You can see, like, paramedics and cops

413
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 there in the scene. It's supposed to be shot, like, at

414
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 Stonewall and them, you know,

415
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 they're interviewing to drag

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 queens and gay people and, you know,

417
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 this and that. And then there's another video that was attached

418
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 to it and it's talking about Stonewall and how

419
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 it gave the correct history of Stonewall

420
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 and how people misbelieve

421
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 how the mob was on the gay

422
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 people's side. The mob really wasn't on the

423
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 gay people's side. The mob was shaking

424
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 gay people down just as much as the cops were.

425
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 So, um,

426
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 it was a pretty good video

427
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 also that I watched, so...

428
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 A lot of really popular

429
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 TikToks end up over

430
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 on YouTube, so I might be

431
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 able to find it there if I know what the name

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 is. Yeah, I'll find out and I'll share it

433
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 with you, so... But yeah, I think you

434
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 probably need... Sorry, guys, I was a little

435
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 off the, uh...

436
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 Yeah, I don't think

437
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 the Stonewall movie's in our list.

438
00:17:23.466 --> 00:17:25.666
 Hmm. Priscilla, Queen of the Desert,

439
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 1994. Two drag queens

440
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 and a transgender woman embark on a

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 road trip across the Australian outback, facing

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 challenges and celebrating their identities.

443
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 Have you seen this?

444
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 No, and I am a terrible person for

445
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 not, because I know this is like a cult classic.

446
00:17:39.726 --> 00:17:40.966
 Yeah, I've seen it.

447
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 But probably not because I picked

448
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 two, because I was with people who

449
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 wanted to see it. Yeah. Is it any

450
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 good? Yeah, it's pretty good.

451
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 Um, especially when you consider

452
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 those were name actors

453
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 who were all doing drag.

454
00:17:55.986 --> 00:17:57.686
 Mm-hmm. Oh, is this the one with

455
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 with Patrick

456
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 Swayze and Mustard Snipes? Yes.

457
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 I thought... And John Michael Zana? Mm-hmm.

458
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 I thought that was a different movie.

459
00:18:04.866 --> 00:18:07.186
 No, I'm pretty sure that's... Okay.

460
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 That's this one. Okay.

461
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 Which may have gotten

462
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 people to watch it who wouldn't have.

463
00:18:12.906 --> 00:18:14.966
 Yeah. Yeah.

464
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 Hmm.

465
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 I think I've seen the one with John Michael Zana

466
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 and Patrick Swayze. I think that, yeah, if that's it,

467
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 then I've seen it. It was okay.

468
00:18:22.686 --> 00:18:24.986
 It was funny, you know what I mean? But it falls

469
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 back on the same

470
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 stereotypes

471
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 with drag queens and...

472
00:18:31.266 --> 00:18:32.906
 You're thinking tropes

473
00:18:32.906 --> 00:18:34.726
 rather than stereotypes. Yeah, okay, tropes.

474
00:18:34.726 --> 00:18:37.726
 Yeah. Okay. So...

475
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 Hedwig and the Angry

476
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 Itch, 2001.

477
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 A rock musical about a transgender

478
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 punk rock singer from

479
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 East Berlin telling her story

480
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 of love, loss, and self-discovery.

481
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 Never saw that one either. Another...

482
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 No. And I have heard

483
00:18:52.606 --> 00:18:54.606
 so many people praise

484
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 this movie, but I just have not seen it.

485
00:18:56.806 --> 00:18:58.426
 Yeah. I just...

486
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 One of those. Another one. It needs to...

487
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 We need

488
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 some way to control the

489
00:19:04.466 --> 00:19:06.486
 suggested movies

490
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 list on streaming.

491
00:19:08.426 --> 00:19:08.646
 Yeah.

492
00:19:08.646 --> 00:19:12.506
 Okay. God's Own Country,

493
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 2017. A young farmer

494
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 in Yorkshire forms a bond with a

495
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 Romanian migrant worker, leading to

496
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 a transformative and passionate relationship.

497
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 I've never

498
00:19:23.046 --> 00:19:25.006
 heard of it. Well, I've heard the name

499
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 of the show, but

500
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 I've never seen it.

501
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 And there are so,

502
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 so, so, so many movies

503
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 about adolescent boys

504
00:19:35.146 --> 00:19:36.946
 coming of age and...

505
00:19:36.946 --> 00:19:38.146
 Oh.

506
00:19:38.146 --> 00:19:39.606
 Mm. Yeah.

507
00:19:39.606 --> 00:19:41.826
 Yeah. Okay.

508
00:19:41.826 --> 00:19:43.286
 Fire Island,

509
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 2022. A group of friends embark on a

510
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 week-long vacation to the iconic Fire

511
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 Island, navigating love, friendship, and

512
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 self-discovery.

513
00:19:50.926 --> 00:19:53.966
 This is a good movie. Is this for the one with

514
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 Bowen Yang?

515
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 I don't recognize that name. Bowen Yang, he's

516
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 the Asian comedian

517
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 that's on Saturday Live. Could be.

518
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 And then, um,

519
00:20:03.126 --> 00:20:06.146
 I don't think he's old enough to

520
00:20:06.146 --> 00:20:07.206
 have been in that movie.

521
00:20:07.926 --> 00:20:08.846
 22. Oh.

522
00:20:08.846 --> 00:20:10.706
 Okay.

523
00:20:10.706 --> 00:20:12.806
 Is Marker Cho in that movie?

524
00:20:12.806 --> 00:20:15.946
 Yes. Okay, and they're on the island.

525
00:20:15.946 --> 00:20:17.506
 Yeah, it's just a good movie. It was on

526
00:20:17.506 --> 00:20:19.686
 Hulu, or Prime. I think it was a Prime

527
00:20:19.686 --> 00:20:21.506
 movie. It was good. I liked that movie.

528
00:20:21.506 --> 00:20:23.206
 It made me laugh. I thought it was really good.

529
00:20:23.206 --> 00:20:24.886
 Yeah, it was. So,

530
00:20:24.886 --> 00:20:27.646
 that'd be a fun place to go visit. I'd like to

531
00:20:27.646 --> 00:20:28.786
 go to Fire Island sometime.

532
00:20:28.786 --> 00:20:31.146
 Hmm.

533
00:20:31.146 --> 00:20:33.466
 You and Tom wanted to go? I think

534
00:20:33.466 --> 00:20:35.686
 we would go and have

535
00:20:35.686 --> 00:20:37.886
 such high expectations, we'd be disappointed.

536
00:20:37.886 --> 00:20:39.806
 Hmm. Well, would you

537
00:20:39.806 --> 00:20:41.006
 either do that or go to Providence?

538
00:20:41.006 --> 00:20:43.126
 Mm-hmm.

539
00:20:43.126 --> 00:20:45.786
 I'm not a lesbian golfer, so I'll

540
00:20:45.786 --> 00:20:47.806
 stay away from Providence. Providence is

541
00:20:47.806 --> 00:20:49.246
 where they have the big beer week, don't they?

542
00:20:49.246 --> 00:20:51.146
 Get out of here. Yes.

543
00:20:51.146 --> 00:20:53.986
 Smart ass.

544
00:20:53.986 --> 00:20:55.726
 Everything

545
00:20:55.726 --> 00:20:57.026
 everywhere all at once.

546
00:20:57.026 --> 00:20:59.706
 A multiverse stand-in spanning adventure

547
00:20:59.706 --> 00:21:01.806
 that intertwines themes of family, identity,

548
00:21:01.806 --> 00:21:03.846
 and acceptance featuring a queer storyline.

549
00:21:03.846 --> 00:21:06.026
 Michelle Yeoh, right?

550
00:21:06.026 --> 00:21:07.866
 Mm-hmm. I'm pretty sure you've seen,

551
00:21:07.866 --> 00:21:09.726
 yes, and probably loved it.

552
00:21:09.726 --> 00:21:11.586
 It was a very cool movie. It's very

553
00:21:11.586 --> 00:21:12.186
 different.

554
00:21:12.186 --> 00:21:16.126
 You had to pay attention.

555
00:21:16.126 --> 00:21:17.686
 You...

556
00:21:17.686 --> 00:21:19.666
 So, how did you sleep through it

557
00:21:19.666 --> 00:21:21.606
 and see it at the same time?

558
00:21:21.606 --> 00:21:24.026
 You can be amazed. I can't actually stay awake.

559
00:21:24.026 --> 00:21:25.566
 I don't sleep and work.

560
00:21:25.566 --> 00:21:27.926
 I can't actually watch things.

561
00:21:27.926 --> 00:21:29.886
 It's normally while you're

562
00:21:29.886 --> 00:21:31.706
 sleeping, I'm awake, but that's

563
00:21:31.706 --> 00:21:34.146
 generally what happens, so...

564
00:21:34.146 --> 00:21:35.486
 But that's... You've never seen it?

565
00:21:35.486 --> 00:21:37.846
 I've seen bits and pieces,

566
00:21:37.846 --> 00:21:39.266
 of it. You can't stay awake.

567
00:21:39.266 --> 00:21:41.806
 Kind of like I've seen bits and pieces of

568
00:21:41.806 --> 00:21:43.886
 Three-Body Solution,

569
00:21:43.886 --> 00:21:45.846
 but I haven't watched the whole thing.

570
00:21:45.846 --> 00:21:47.706
 Okay. It's a good show. I mean,

571
00:21:47.706 --> 00:21:49.926
 it's different. I mean, God, it won every year.

572
00:21:49.926 --> 00:21:51.966
 I think every Oscar that came out

573
00:21:51.966 --> 00:21:53.826
 that year. Mm-hmm. So, but it's

574
00:21:53.826 --> 00:21:55.226
 a good movie. I definitely recommend it.

575
00:21:55.226 --> 00:21:57.766
 The Star Trek movie that she was

576
00:21:57.766 --> 00:22:00.006
 in, um... The new one?

577
00:22:00.006 --> 00:22:01.866
 What was it called? Something 52

578
00:22:01.866 --> 00:22:03.186
 or... No.

579
00:22:03.186 --> 00:22:05.106
 The new one you're talking about, though?

580
00:22:05.106 --> 00:22:07.286
 Section 31. There we go.

581
00:22:07.286 --> 00:22:07.506
 Yeah.

582
00:22:07.506 --> 00:22:08.546
 Um...

583
00:22:08.546 --> 00:22:11.286
 The only reason we got to see Section

584
00:22:11.286 --> 00:22:13.186
 31 is because she was on contract

585
00:22:13.186 --> 00:22:15.226
 to do that movie before she did this

586
00:22:15.226 --> 00:22:17.446
 one. Oh, really? And now she's

587
00:22:17.446 --> 00:22:19.386
 so popular, there's no way

588
00:22:19.386 --> 00:22:21.206
 anybody would get her without

589
00:22:21.206 --> 00:22:23.226
 a new contract. Hmm.

590
00:22:23.226 --> 00:22:25.046
 So you don't think she'll do any more Star Trek movies?

591
00:22:25.046 --> 00:22:27.226
 Probably not. Really? And I would advise

592
00:22:27.226 --> 00:22:29.546
 her not to, because that was a turd.

593
00:22:29.546 --> 00:22:31.166
 Yeah, but I... It was a

594
00:22:31.166 --> 00:22:33.386
 highly polished turd. She's

595
00:22:33.386 --> 00:22:34.966
 got such a huge following.

596
00:22:34.966 --> 00:22:37.486
 Yes, she does. I mean, because Star Trek

597
00:22:37.486 --> 00:22:39.106
 stuff, she did the whole hidden dragon

598
00:22:39.106 --> 00:22:41.186
 crushing tiger stuff. She's got

599
00:22:41.186 --> 00:22:43.346
 such a huge cult following. I mean,

600
00:22:43.346 --> 00:22:45.386
 it'd be sad if she didn't...

601
00:22:45.386 --> 00:22:47.586
 Well, and, um...

602
00:22:47.586 --> 00:22:48.386
 A lot of

603
00:22:48.386 --> 00:22:51.226
 what makes her popular is the

604
00:22:51.226 --> 00:22:53.286
 action kung fu type stuff,

605
00:22:53.286 --> 00:22:54.826
 and she's getting a bit old for that.

606
00:22:54.826 --> 00:22:57.266
 Yeah. So she does a lot of it in that movie

607
00:22:57.266 --> 00:22:58.866
 theater. In that movie.

608
00:22:58.866 --> 00:23:01.226
 Yeah, that film. So... But it was

609
00:23:01.226 --> 00:23:03.286
 a good movie. I enjoyed it. Okay.

610
00:23:03.286 --> 00:23:04.986
 The Wizard of Oz,

611
00:23:04.986 --> 00:23:07.366
 1939. Transported to a surreal

612
00:23:07.366 --> 00:23:09.226
 landscape, a young girl kills the first

613
00:23:09.226 --> 00:23:11.046
 person she meets, and then teams up with

614
00:23:11.046 --> 00:23:12.446
 three strangers to kill again.

615
00:23:12.446 --> 00:23:19.186
 Oh,

616
00:23:19.186 --> 00:23:19.846
 crap.

617
00:23:19.846 --> 00:23:23.186
 Wow, I've never heard the Wizard of Oz

618
00:23:23.186 --> 00:23:24.886
 described as

619
00:23:24.886 --> 00:23:27.486
 so cringeworthy.

620
00:23:27.486 --> 00:23:28.366
 My god.

621
00:23:28.366 --> 00:23:33.266
 Oh. I guess

622
00:23:33.266 --> 00:23:35.206
 that's really what happens, but I never looked

623
00:23:35.206 --> 00:23:37.246
 at it that way, so no kid should ever see this.

624
00:23:37.246 --> 00:23:37.646
 This movie.

625
00:23:37.646 --> 00:23:41.286
 I love how you

626
00:23:41.286 --> 00:23:42.006
 throw that in there.

627
00:23:42.006 --> 00:23:45.286
 Uh...

628
00:23:45.286 --> 00:23:47.346
 Okay. Well, I've never

629
00:23:47.346 --> 00:23:49.106
 seen it. You've never seen it?

630
00:23:49.106 --> 00:23:50.446
 No, I've seen the Wizard of Oz, yes.

631
00:23:50.446 --> 00:23:53.146
 Um, I don't understand

632
00:23:53.146 --> 00:23:55.026
 why it's on a list of gay movies.

633
00:23:55.026 --> 00:23:57.206
 Yeah. Did you do that?

634
00:23:57.206 --> 00:23:58.426
 Transported to a surreal...

635
00:23:58.426 --> 00:24:01.126
 No, that's a very famous synopsis.

636
00:24:01.126 --> 00:24:01.606
 Oh, come.

637
00:24:01.606 --> 00:24:05.226
 Oh, yeah.

638
00:24:05.226 --> 00:24:07.126
 That's a... Yeah, everyone's

639
00:24:07.126 --> 00:24:08.766
 seen this. There's really nothing to talk about.

640
00:24:08.766 --> 00:24:11.486
 But, I don't...

641
00:24:11.486 --> 00:24:12.466
 There's no...

642
00:24:12.466 --> 00:24:15.306
 No hidden gay meaning. There's no...

643
00:24:15.306 --> 00:24:17.106
 No. No overt gay

644
00:24:17.106 --> 00:24:18.986
 characters, or... It's the ruby red

645
00:24:18.986 --> 00:24:21.166
 slippers. It's the drag queens that take it over.

646
00:24:21.166 --> 00:24:23.186
 Okay.

647
00:24:23.186 --> 00:24:24.586
 Um...

648
00:24:24.586 --> 00:24:27.106
 And, um...

649
00:24:27.106 --> 00:24:28.906
 Judy Garland

650
00:24:28.906 --> 00:24:31.446
 was the daughter, or...

651
00:24:31.446 --> 00:24:32.426
 No, it was the mother of...

652
00:24:32.426 --> 00:24:34.446
 Mother of, um...

653
00:24:34.446 --> 00:24:37.006
 Oh, I just was gonna say the word, and now I can't...

654
00:24:37.006 --> 00:24:38.486
 think of it. What's her name?

655
00:24:38.486 --> 00:24:40.786
 Liza Minnelli. Liza Minnelli, yes.

656
00:24:40.786 --> 00:24:43.006
 Yeah. Who was a gay icon. So that's probably

657
00:24:43.006 --> 00:24:44.686
 the only gay connection. Yeah.

658
00:24:44.686 --> 00:24:47.046
 And why is Liza Minnelli such a gay icon?

659
00:24:47.046 --> 00:24:48.906
 Strong, powerful

660
00:24:48.906 --> 00:24:50.686
 women are. Yeah, that's true.

661
00:24:50.686 --> 00:24:52.546
 And some of them don't deserve it, though.

662
00:24:52.546 --> 00:24:55.046
 So... Don't tell Lady Gaga that.

663
00:24:55.046 --> 00:24:56.806
 I like Lady Gaga, though.

664
00:24:56.806 --> 00:24:58.846
 So... Okay.

665
00:24:58.846 --> 00:25:00.726
 Longtime companion, 1989.

666
00:25:00.726 --> 00:25:03.006
 A group of friends navigate life and loss

667
00:25:03.006 --> 00:25:05.186
 during the early years of the AIDS epidemic,

668
00:25:05.186 --> 00:25:06.886
 exploring love and friendship,

669
00:25:06.886 --> 00:25:08.766
 friendship. You've seen it?

670
00:25:08.766 --> 00:25:10.906
 You have not seen it?

671
00:25:10.906 --> 00:25:12.986
 Is this on HBO?

672
00:25:12.986 --> 00:25:15.186
 I don't know.

673
00:25:15.186 --> 00:25:17.506
 I think I'm...

674
00:25:17.506 --> 00:25:18.526
 Now that I'm thinking about it...

675
00:25:18.526 --> 00:25:21.006
 It's a pretty old movie. It's super, super sad.

676
00:25:21.006 --> 00:25:23.146
 Yes. Bring a box of Kleenex

677
00:25:23.146 --> 00:25:24.666
 when you watch this movie.

678
00:25:24.666 --> 00:25:26.466
 I'm thinking of the HBO

679
00:25:26.466 --> 00:25:28.046
 Angels.

680
00:25:28.046 --> 00:25:29.806
 Angels Above America.

681
00:25:29.806 --> 00:25:32.666
 Angels in America.

682
00:25:32.666 --> 00:25:34.926
 Angels in America. Okay, that's what I was thinking. I got them confused.

683
00:25:34.926 --> 00:25:36.766
 But no, I think I did say longtime companion.

684
00:25:36.766 --> 00:25:39.686
 But that's a tearjerker.

685
00:25:39.686 --> 00:25:41.786
 Isn't Mark Ruffalo in this, too?

686
00:25:41.786 --> 00:25:42.546
 I think so.

687
00:25:42.546 --> 00:25:47.026
 And the guy who starred in

688
00:25:47.026 --> 00:25:48.846
 Bim... Do you remember

689
00:25:48.846 --> 00:25:49.306
 Bim?

690
00:25:49.306 --> 00:25:52.746
 The kid who had the rats for...

691
00:25:52.746 --> 00:25:54.586
 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the rats and Bim.

692
00:25:54.586 --> 00:25:57.006
 Well, the kid who starred in that

693
00:25:57.006 --> 00:25:58.906
 is in this movie. I can't think

694
00:25:58.906 --> 00:25:59.646
 of his name. Okay.

695
00:25:59.646 --> 00:26:02.986
 But he has a tearjerking scene

696
00:26:02.986 --> 00:26:04.866
 where he's in the

697
00:26:04.866 --> 00:26:06.646
 hospital and his partner

698
00:26:06.646 --> 00:26:08.826
 is dying and he says

699
00:26:08.826 --> 00:26:10.566
 it's okay.

700
00:26:10.566 --> 00:26:12.546
 It's okay. You can leave.

701
00:26:12.546 --> 00:26:14.706
 Yeah, he tells him he can go

702
00:26:14.706 --> 00:26:15.146
 without him.

703
00:26:15.146 --> 00:26:18.186
 It's sad.

704
00:26:18.186 --> 00:26:20.826
 But it's

705
00:26:20.826 --> 00:26:22.926
 amazing people do that and it actually works.

706
00:26:22.926 --> 00:26:24.206
 Yeah.

707
00:26:24.206 --> 00:26:26.526
 You know what I mean? But everyone, I think

708
00:26:26.526 --> 00:26:28.166
 a lot of people have done it.

709
00:26:28.166 --> 00:26:30.766
 It's okay to say goodbye to

710
00:26:30.766 --> 00:26:31.326
 people you love.

711
00:26:31.326 --> 00:26:34.746
 And people do, I think, hold on until they hear

712
00:26:34.746 --> 00:26:35.806
 those affirming words.

713
00:26:36.526 --> 00:26:38.346
 But, yeah. Okay.

714
00:26:38.346 --> 00:26:40.426
 Pink Flamingos

715
00:26:40.426 --> 00:26:42.346
 in 1972. A cult classic that

716
00:26:42.346 --> 00:26:44.226
 follows the outrageous antics of the vine.

717
00:26:44.226 --> 00:26:46.306
 A drag queen vying for the title

718
00:26:46.306 --> 00:26:47.786
 of filthiest person alive.

719
00:26:47.786 --> 00:26:50.306
 I'll bet you have never seen this. Nope.

720
00:26:50.306 --> 00:26:52.386
 It is sort of a

721
00:26:52.386 --> 00:26:52.906
 classic.

722
00:26:52.906 --> 00:26:54.486
 Um,

723
00:26:54.486 --> 00:26:58.566
 when the Gay Pride

724
00:26:58.566 --> 00:27:00.186
 organization here in town

725
00:27:00.186 --> 00:27:02.566
 decided to start back up,

726
00:27:02.566 --> 00:27:04.646
 there was a period, sort of,

727
00:27:04.646 --> 00:27:06.126
 after Anita Bryant,

728
00:27:06.406 --> 00:27:07.206
 and until

729
00:27:07.206 --> 00:27:10.006
 say 1990

730
00:27:10.006 --> 00:27:11.266
 or late

731
00:27:11.266 --> 00:27:13.386
 88's,

732
00:27:13.386 --> 00:27:16.466
 the Pride organization decided to start

733
00:27:16.466 --> 00:27:17.566
 back up again

734
00:27:17.566 --> 00:27:20.206
 and have a parade and a festival

735
00:27:20.206 --> 00:27:22.346
 and everything. And this movie

736
00:27:22.346 --> 00:27:23.846
 was what they decided to play.

737
00:27:23.846 --> 00:27:24.546
 Oh, wow.

738
00:27:24.546 --> 00:27:28.386
 People walked out. Really?

739
00:27:28.386 --> 00:27:30.226
 Demanded their money back. Why?

740
00:27:30.226 --> 00:27:32.706
 It's a horrible, horrible movie.

741
00:27:32.706 --> 00:27:34.306
 Yeah. It's a John Waters film.

742
00:27:34.306 --> 00:27:36.226
 How is he famous?

743
00:27:37.086 --> 00:27:37.986
 I don't know.

744
00:27:37.986 --> 00:27:38.546
 I mean,

745
00:27:38.546 --> 00:27:41.766
 One thing is, he

746
00:27:41.766 --> 00:27:43.846
 was uncompromising.

747
00:27:43.846 --> 00:27:46.346
 He made his movies the way he wanted

748
00:27:46.346 --> 00:27:48.366
 to make them, despite how

749
00:27:48.366 --> 00:27:50.286
 bad they were. Yeah, I mean, it's

750
00:27:50.286 --> 00:27:52.466
 kind of like so bad

751
00:27:52.466 --> 00:27:53.166
 that they're good.

752
00:27:53.166 --> 00:27:55.446
 But I've never gotten that.

753
00:27:55.446 --> 00:27:58.246
 I don't get it. I just

754
00:27:58.246 --> 00:27:59.946
 don't get it. I mean, he's a

755
00:27:59.946 --> 00:28:01.866
 I guess he's their own.

756
00:28:01.866 --> 00:28:03.246
 And Divine,

757
00:28:03.246 --> 00:28:06.166
 I mean, they were both cut from the

758
00:28:06.166 --> 00:28:06.906
 same cloth.

759
00:28:06.906 --> 00:28:09.346
 In this movie,

760
00:28:09.346 --> 00:28:12.066
 I believe it's this movie. There's

761
00:28:12.066 --> 00:28:14.046
 several of them that he did with Divine

762
00:28:14.046 --> 00:28:16.126
 before she died.

763
00:28:16.126 --> 00:28:18.146
 But I think

764
00:28:18.146 --> 00:28:20.146
 in this one where she

765
00:28:20.146 --> 00:28:21.786
 picks up a dog turd and eats it.

766
00:28:21.786 --> 00:28:24.206
 Oh, God. I could have went without

767
00:28:24.206 --> 00:28:25.886
 that. Yeah, that's when

768
00:28:25.886 --> 00:28:27.466
 so many people walked out.

769
00:28:27.466 --> 00:28:30.206
 That's just foul. Why would you do something like that?

770
00:28:30.206 --> 00:28:33.706
 It got attention.

771
00:28:33.706 --> 00:28:35.666
 Yeah, but there's

772
00:28:35.666 --> 00:28:37.566
 some things you just don't need.

773
00:28:37.566 --> 00:28:39.606
 Like that. You don't need

774
00:28:39.606 --> 00:28:42.026
 eating feces

775
00:28:42.026 --> 00:28:43.986
 from an animal. Making the decision

776
00:28:43.986 --> 00:28:46.286
 to make that as the movie for

777
00:28:46.286 --> 00:28:48.006
 Pride that year

778
00:28:48.006 --> 00:28:49.986
 probably not a wise decision.

779
00:28:49.986 --> 00:28:52.486
 No, no. That was some

780
00:28:52.486 --> 00:28:54.066
 snotty little queen

781
00:28:54.066 --> 00:28:55.726
 who thought they were going to be funny

782
00:28:55.726 --> 00:28:58.046
 and make a scene by

783
00:28:58.046 --> 00:28:58.546
 doing that.

784
00:28:58.546 --> 00:29:02.046
 It reacted terribly.

785
00:29:02.046 --> 00:29:03.726
 So, yeah.

786
00:29:03.726 --> 00:29:05.626
 Oh, well. All right.

787
00:29:05.626 --> 00:29:06.946
 Bad Education.

788
00:29:06.946 --> 00:29:09.666
 A Spanish film that interwines themes of

789
00:29:09.666 --> 00:29:11.366
 love, betrayal, and identity

790
00:29:11.366 --> 00:29:13.406
 set against the backdrop of a Catholic school.

791
00:29:13.406 --> 00:29:15.666
 I've heard of this.

792
00:29:15.666 --> 00:29:16.546
 I've never seen it.

793
00:29:16.546 --> 00:29:17.426
 Me neither.

794
00:29:17.426 --> 00:29:21.606
 Once again, probably not something I'll watch

795
00:29:21.606 --> 00:29:22.946
 because it's a teenage

796
00:29:22.946 --> 00:29:24.806
 angst movie.

797
00:29:24.806 --> 00:29:25.866
 Oh, is it? Okay.

798
00:29:25.866 --> 00:29:28.206
 And it's a Spanish film, too.

799
00:29:28.206 --> 00:29:29.666
 Oh, yeah.

800
00:29:29.666 --> 00:29:33.966
 Not that I'm opposed to watching

801
00:29:33.966 --> 00:29:34.246
 um,

802
00:29:35.166 --> 00:29:35.886
 closed captions.

803
00:29:35.886 --> 00:29:38.906
 But oftentimes I'm trying to do other things

804
00:29:38.906 --> 00:29:40.646
 while the movie's on and I just don't

805
00:29:40.646 --> 00:29:43.006
 want to sit and read the entire movie.

806
00:29:43.006 --> 00:29:44.046
 Yeah.

807
00:29:44.046 --> 00:29:46.546
 Yeah, I've never seen it.

808
00:29:46.546 --> 00:29:47.746
 And it's, like,

809
00:29:47.746 --> 00:29:50.386
 I'll watch it, close caption, but

810
00:29:50.386 --> 00:29:51.566
 it's less likely.

811
00:29:51.566 --> 00:29:54.086
 Alright, Theorem.

812
00:29:54.086 --> 00:29:56.726
 1968. A mysterious visitor

813
00:29:56.726 --> 00:29:58.866
 seduces members of a bourgeois family

814
00:29:58.866 --> 00:30:00.626
 leading to profound changes

815
00:30:00.626 --> 00:30:01.386
 in their lives.

816
00:30:01.386 --> 00:30:04.466
 That's bourgeois. Bourgeois. I'm sorry.

817
00:30:04.466 --> 00:30:04.906
 What did I say?

818
00:30:04.906 --> 00:30:05.246
 Bourgeois?

819
00:30:05.246 --> 00:30:06.266
 Okay.

820
00:30:06.266 --> 00:30:09.066
 Bougie. I'm just going to call it bougie.

821
00:30:09.066 --> 00:30:10.386
 Okay.

822
00:30:10.386 --> 00:30:13.346
 I don't think I've seen this one either, but I've heard of it.

823
00:30:13.346 --> 00:30:14.786
 I haven't seen this one.

824
00:30:14.786 --> 00:30:16.446
 I've never heard of it either.

825
00:30:16.446 --> 00:30:18.826
 The plot sounds like

826
00:30:18.826 --> 00:30:20.726
 the same plot as,

827
00:30:20.726 --> 00:30:21.966
 what is it?

828
00:30:21.966 --> 00:30:27.686
 Something of the Vanities.

829
00:30:27.686 --> 00:30:29.366
 Bonfire of the Vanities?

830
00:30:29.366 --> 00:30:30.586
 Yeah, Bonfire of the Vanities.

831
00:30:30.586 --> 00:30:32.526
 Sounds like

832
00:30:32.526 --> 00:30:34.426
 just another version of that.

833
00:30:34.646 --> 00:30:34.766
 Yeah.

834
00:30:34.766 --> 00:30:36.886
 Okay.

835
00:30:36.886 --> 00:30:39.666
 Midnight Cowboy, 1969.

836
00:30:39.666 --> 00:30:42.346
 A native and naive Texas hustler

837
00:30:42.346 --> 00:30:44.266
 forms a bond with a con man in New York City

838
00:30:44.266 --> 00:30:46.326
 leading to a poignant exploration of

839
00:30:46.326 --> 00:30:47.366
 friendship and survival.

840
00:30:47.366 --> 00:30:49.446
 You've heard of this?

841
00:30:49.446 --> 00:30:50.266
 I've seen it.

842
00:30:50.266 --> 00:30:50.946
 You've seen it?

843
00:30:50.946 --> 00:30:54.546
 Who's the con man? I can't think of it.

844
00:30:54.546 --> 00:30:55.906
 Dustin Hoffman?

845
00:30:55.906 --> 00:30:57.506
 Dustin Hoffman is the con man.

846
00:30:57.506 --> 00:31:00.806
 And the cowboy is, um...

847
00:31:00.806 --> 00:31:01.786
 I can't think of his name.

848
00:31:01.786 --> 00:31:02.606
 I can't either.

849
00:31:02.606 --> 00:31:03.826
 Famous actor, too.

850
00:31:03.826 --> 00:31:07.246
 But this was back in the days

851
00:31:07.246 --> 00:31:09.366
 where every movie that had

852
00:31:09.366 --> 00:31:12.046
 gay characters had to have a tragic ending.

853
00:31:12.046 --> 00:31:12.726
 Mm-hmm.

854
00:31:12.726 --> 00:31:13.986
 Yeah.

855
00:31:13.986 --> 00:31:17.006
 Well, I mean, the whole...

856
00:31:17.006 --> 00:31:17.826
 Yeah, I mean...

857
00:31:17.826 --> 00:31:19.686
 Yeah, that's...

858
00:31:19.686 --> 00:31:19.986
 Yeah.

859
00:31:19.986 --> 00:31:22.966
 But...

860
00:31:22.966 --> 00:31:25.226
 I'm glad to see those days are gone.

861
00:31:25.226 --> 00:31:25.686
 Yeah.

862
00:31:25.686 --> 00:31:27.326
 Yeah, very much so.

863
00:31:27.326 --> 00:31:30.306
 You have a little bit more lightheartedness.

864
00:31:30.306 --> 00:31:30.906
 Mm-hmm.

865
00:31:30.906 --> 00:31:31.626
 Okay.

866
00:31:31.626 --> 00:31:33.706
 Fox and his friends,

867
00:31:33.706 --> 00:31:34.466
 1975.

868
00:31:34.466 --> 00:31:36.306
 A working-class man wins the lottery

869
00:31:36.306 --> 00:31:38.086
 and becomes involved with a wealthy man

870
00:31:38.086 --> 00:31:41.386
 leading to exploitation and betrayal.

871
00:31:41.386 --> 00:31:43.866
 I have not seen it,

872
00:31:43.866 --> 00:31:48.366
 but that sounds like a fascinating concept for a movie.

873
00:31:48.366 --> 00:31:49.806
 I think I want to see that.

874
00:31:49.806 --> 00:31:50.486
 You think so?

875
00:31:50.486 --> 00:31:51.006
 Mm-hmm.

876
00:31:51.006 --> 00:31:53.746
 It's kind of sad, though.

877
00:31:53.746 --> 00:31:56.086
 I suppose.

878
00:31:56.086 --> 00:31:57.226
 It could be.

879
00:31:57.226 --> 00:31:58.286
 I mean, it could be funny, too.

880
00:31:58.286 --> 00:31:59.246
 I mean, or...

881
00:31:59.246 --> 00:32:01.166
 I don't know if it's a drama or a comedy.

882
00:32:01.166 --> 00:32:03.586
 Oh, uh...

883
00:32:03.586 --> 00:32:04.926
 I don't know.

884
00:32:04.926 --> 00:32:05.386
 Yeah.

885
00:32:05.386 --> 00:32:07.566
 Based on that description, it could be either one.

886
00:32:07.566 --> 00:32:07.826
 Yeah.

887
00:32:07.826 --> 00:32:08.526
 So...

888
00:32:08.526 --> 00:32:10.606
 But...

889
00:32:10.606 --> 00:32:10.906
 Okay.

890
00:32:10.906 --> 00:32:12.946
 Weekend, 2011.

891
00:32:12.946 --> 00:32:15.246
 Two men meet at a club and spend a weekend together

892
00:32:15.246 --> 00:32:17.566
 forming a deep connection that challenges their perceptions.

893
00:32:17.566 --> 00:32:19.406
 I've seen this.

894
00:32:19.406 --> 00:32:20.086
 Isn't it good?

895
00:32:20.086 --> 00:32:21.726
 It's...

896
00:32:21.726 --> 00:32:22.526
 all right.

897
00:32:22.526 --> 00:32:23.166
 Yeah.

898
00:32:23.166 --> 00:32:26.346
 There's a lot of skin in it.

899
00:32:26.346 --> 00:32:27.006
 Okay.

900
00:32:27.006 --> 00:32:29.266
 Which is probably the reason most people have seen it.

901
00:32:29.266 --> 00:32:29.746
 Okay.

902
00:32:29.746 --> 00:32:31.766
 Yeah, I've never seen it either.

903
00:32:31.766 --> 00:32:32.626
 Mm-hmm.

904
00:32:32.626 --> 00:32:33.206
 That's terrible.

905
00:32:33.306 --> 00:32:35.286
 I've seen maybe, like, five of these movies at all.

906
00:32:35.286 --> 00:32:37.026
 Okay.

907
00:32:37.026 --> 00:32:39.786
 Well, I mean, since we...

908
00:32:39.786 --> 00:32:40.586
 Okay, we got...

909
00:32:40.586 --> 00:32:41.206
 That's it.

910
00:32:41.206 --> 00:32:41.926
 Is that it?

911
00:32:41.926 --> 00:32:42.446
 That's all.

912
00:32:42.446 --> 00:32:43.026
 Okay.

913
00:32:43.026 --> 00:32:45.306
 You got a joke this week, or...

914
00:32:45.306 --> 00:32:50.566
 Why is it that Mike Pence will not shake Donald Trump's hand?

915
00:32:50.566 --> 00:32:52.326
 Because he tried to kill him?

916
00:32:52.326 --> 00:32:53.706
 Or get him killed?

917
00:32:53.706 --> 00:32:55.526
 I don't know why.

918
00:32:55.526 --> 00:32:59.726
 Because he doesn't think an asshole should touch a prick.

919
00:32:59.726 --> 00:33:02.286
 Wow.

920
00:33:03.186 --> 00:33:04.506
 That's good.

921
00:33:04.506 --> 00:33:06.706
 Wow.

922
00:33:06.706 --> 00:33:09.066
 Tell us how you really feel.

923
00:33:09.066 --> 00:33:12.086
 All right.

924
00:33:12.086 --> 00:33:15.726
 This was episode 151 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

925
00:33:15.726 --> 00:33:16.506
 This is Baehr.

926
00:33:16.506 --> 00:33:17.466
 This is Curadh.

927
00:33:17.466 --> 00:33:18.026
 Goodbye.

928
00:33:18.026 --> 00:33:18.666
 Goodbye.

929
00:33:21.202 --> 00:33:24.902
 You have been listening to the Baehr and Curadh Podcast,

930
00:33:24.902 --> 00:33:28.842
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931
00:33:28.842 --> 00:33:32.022
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932
00:33:32.022 --> 00:33:35.942
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00:33:35.942 --> 00:33:39.882
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