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 Hello from Baehr and Curadh, a podcast from the Land of Awes Information Services.

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 I love you, Curadh.

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 I love you, Baehr.

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 This is episode 163 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 We're going to talk about things gay people have been blamed for.

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 Low school grades.

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 In 2013, Sandy Rios, then a host for American Family Radio,

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 a division of the American Family Association,

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 stated on air that a reason for low test scores

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 was schools teaching about homosexuality and radical environmentalism

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 instead of math and science.

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 Rios made the comments while reading an email on her show,

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 Sandy Rios in the Morning.

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 It's been a while since that happened.

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 Twelve years.

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 Just look at the name of the radio.

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 American Family Radio just screams hey to me anyway.

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 The American Family Association is on the list

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 of the most ever-growing gay people in the world.

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 of hate groups from, what is the name of that group?

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 Southern Poverty Law Center.

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 So just full of love and hugs in that organization, right?

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 So, are you surprised?

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 Not coming from them.

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 I mean, you could just probably follow them around

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 and find all kinds of stuff that they say about them.

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 So, yeah, but that's ridiculous.

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 In their case,

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 it's mainly a fundraising thing.

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 Every time they want money,

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 they blame the homosexuals for something.

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 So, man, there you go.

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 I think most of the stuff on this list is going to be silly,

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 but it's the way the cookie crumbles.

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 So, you got anything to say to him about it?

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 How about earthquakes?

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 Obviously, this one's true.

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 eventually comes out of the woodwork

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 to blame gay people.

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 New Zealand pastor Brian Tamaka,

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 that sounds like an Asian name,

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 the leader of the Destiny Church,

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 blamed the country's earthquakes on homosexuality

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 and other forms of sexual perversion.

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 He made these comments during a sermon

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 shortly before a major earthquake struck the country.

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 So, he's a fortune you can tell the future to.

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 then that should be an answer to his sermon,

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 How bad his sermon is.

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 none of it makes sense.

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 I'll mess this person's name up.

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 Rachel Dolezal?

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 explicitly linked the case of Rachel Dolezal,

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 to the existence of transgendered people,

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 claiming that the two were the same.

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 Everything that's good came from him,

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 and everything that's bad came from the transgendered him.

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 Two places I'm gonna have to bleep out now.

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 and flood in California.

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 blaming transgendered bathrooms

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 and sex change operations for the flood.

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 It's just you pick up the phone and it rings on the other end.

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 I remember a joke.

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 I think it was Ronald Reagan visited the Dalai Lama.

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 And saw that there was this phone there that said God on it.

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 Robert de Mattel, a leading but controversial Italian.

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 The Italian academic resigned from his position as the vice president of the National Research Council of Italy in 2011 after attributing the collapse of the Roman Empire and the subsequent arrival of the barbarians to the spread of homosexuality.

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 He claimed that Carthage, a Roman colony, was a haven for homosexuals, suggesting that this abnormal presence of deviance had a detrimental effect on Roman society.

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 This one comes closer to being true than any of them.

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 All you had to do was stand on a pillar with a rope around your neck and recite the law.

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 So, you would have to really want a law to pass in order to propose something.

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 financial crisis on the gay community.

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 Failed presidential nominee Rick.

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 Rick Santorum has also made similar claims, saying,

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 Are you still a member?

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 They did something I didn't like, so.

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 Aren't those also the people who are in charge of the gay agenda?

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 It's all these hard, you know, right-wing evangelicals.

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 It's absurd and it's insulting, but all you can do is laugh about it.

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 Well, and they look at the people who do, who believe it and all that stuff, too.

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 So, you just got to laugh at it.

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 A super mouse infestation.

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 You remember this, right?

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 In 2013, health inspectors discovered a super mouse in Coventry.

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 Coventry Garden, a branch of Tesco Metro.

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 Rather than being a new supermarket-based superhero, the mouse had grown far larger than normal due to its diet of chicken and cakes.

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 However, advocacy group Christian Voice told Pink News that the infestation was due to Tesco's support of gay rights.

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 You're blamed for the bubonic plague then, too.

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 Any kind of retribution from supernatural forces is because of homosexuality.

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 Gosh, we should just throw in the towel and give up.

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 So, I mean, we're such evil, rotten people that do all this stuff.

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 It's just, you just chuckle.

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 It's all, you know.

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 Hurricanes.

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 Hurricanes.

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