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 Hello from Baehr and Curadh, a podcast from the Land of Awes Information Services.

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 This is episode 166 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 We're going to do a deep dive on the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 Curadh is in New Jersey.

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 He's going to pick up his mother from the hospital and bring her here to us in Wichita.

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 And there can't be a Baehr and Curadh podcast without both Baehr and Curadh.

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 So, we're going to listen to a deep dive on the podcast instead.

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 Welcome back to the deep dive.

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 So today we've got a really interesting task you've given us.

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 Yeah, a big one.

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 We're looking at this huge archive.

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 What is it, over 160 episodes?

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 That's right.

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 And trying to, well, distill the essence of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 Based on their whole catalog and their mission statement.

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 Exactly.

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 And the mission itself is pretty interesting.

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 It really is.

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 It features two hosts.

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 They're married.

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 They're gay.

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 Got it.

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 And they talk about life, synergy, and the pursuit of happiness.

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 Yeah.

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 But the format is key, isn't it?

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 They ask each other questions.

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 And then they discuss the answers, but always within the context of their marriage.

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 Right.

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 That's the unique angle.

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 So, our goal here, for you listening, is to synthesize all that content.

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 We want to map out how Baehr and Curadh, let's call them B and C maybe?

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 Sure.

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 B and C works.

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 How B and C managed to balance the really personal stuff with the,

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 you know, the political and the deep thoughts with some pretty quirky things, too.

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 Quite a mix.

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 Where should we start?

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 Well, let's start with the foundation, right?

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 The relationship itself.

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 Makes sense.

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 Because, honestly, it feels like everything else anchors back to that.

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 It's not just, like, a backdrop.

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 No, it's the filter.

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 It's the whole context.

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 And you see that right from the start if you look through the archive.

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 They have early episodes literally titled Relationship.

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 And then they keep coming back to it.

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 Like, episode 111 is just called,

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 And 110 is Aging Gracefully.

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 Yeah, it shows it's an ongoing thing for them,

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 defining their relationship, not just a one-off intro.

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 Totally.

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 And because that's the framework, it means they have to be,

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 well, pretty open, vulnerable, even.

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 Oh, definitely.

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 And you, the listener, you get a real window into their shared life.

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 It's not just the romantic side.

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 No, it's the practical stuff, too.

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 Their histories.

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 They have episodes on childhood, family.

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 And before coming out, looking gay.

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 Kind of tracing their individual paths into the relationship.

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 But the bits that really jumped out, I think, were the health episodes.

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 Some of that is really unexpected.

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 Yeah, I mean, talking about chronic pain or disability, that's already quite personal.

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 But then they go into these really specific acute events.

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 Like, there's an episode on a gallbladder rupture.

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 And even amputation.

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 Which is, wow.

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 That's incredibly personal to share.

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 It really is heady stuff.

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 But I think by talking about these things, you know, chronic pain,

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 losing a limb through that shared relationship lens.

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 It kind of normalizes it, or at least makes it less isolating.

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 And it also becomes a statement about them as a unit, about survival, maybe even accessibility, you know.

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 They're building this picture of shared vulnerability, episode by episode.

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 It's quite powerful.

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 And once you've established that level of intimacy, that shared history, including the tough stuff.

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 Then looking at the outside world, the political world, it suddenly has very personal stakes, which I guess brings us to

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 the next big theme.

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 The second pillar seems to be very clearly LGBTQ+ politics, history, and identity.

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 And there's a lot of content here.

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 It feels like, for BNC, the pursuit of happiness they talk about.

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 It's directly linked to political safety, to legal rights.

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 It's not abstract for them.

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 You see a really strong focus on marriage and legal status.

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 Early episodes on gay marriage, later ones like gay marriage facts, standard stuff, maybe.

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 But important.

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 Importantly, they don't just like celebrate the wins.

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 They actually have a whole episode asking, what happens if gay marriage is overturned?

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 Which is pretty critical analysis, right?

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 It shows they're thinking about the threats, the fragility.

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 It's not just feel-good chat.

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 It feels like advocacy almost.

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 Kind of vigilance.

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 And they broaden out to discussing the Equal Rights Amendment, queer politics in general.

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 And they dig into history, too.

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 There's one called Things Gay People Have Been Blamed For.

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 And looking at activism roots, like the Stonewall Bridge history.

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 So, they're really contextualizing the present, saying you need to understand this history of blame, this history of struggle.

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 It's comprehensive.

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 It's not just surface level.

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 And alongside the politics and history, there's the cultural side of identity.

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 Defining things like what is pride, speculating on the gayest occupations, which sounds fun.

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 And ranking things like top gay movie.

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 It's a whole cultural exploration.

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 But again, not just like gay.

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 It's light stuff.

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 They also tackle internalized homophobia.

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 That's important.

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 It shows self-awareness, right?

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 Recognizing the internal struggles even within a strong relationship.

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 It adds another layer of depth.

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 But here's where their personalities really shine, I think.

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 They can go from that serious stuff.

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 To an episode titled Gay Celebrity, Top or Bottom.

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 Or analyzing the Colton Underwood gay test.

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 It shows they don't take themselves too seriously all the time.

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 They can handle weighty topics, but still bring humor.

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 And maybe a bit of irreverence.

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 Self-aware humor keeps it engaging for the listener, presumably.

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 And that theme of pride, for instance, you see it pop up again and again, from really

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 So, it's a constant thread.

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 Let me push back slightly here.

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 If everything gets filtered through their relationship, amputation, legal rights, everything

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 does that risk, I don't know, minimizing the broader picture?

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 Or is there a broader political stakes for people outside their relationship?

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 That's a fair question.

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 Does the personal lens make it too narrow?

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 Maybe.

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 Or does it make it more powerful?

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 I actually think the sources suggest it makes it more powerful.

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 By tying these huge, sometimes abstract political fights directly to their specific, shared

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 It makes the threats feel real.

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 Concrete.

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 When they ask what happens if gay marriage is overturned, it's not academic.

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 It's about their marriage, their life together.

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 It seems to amplify the stakes, not reduce them.

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 That makes a lot of sense.

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 It grounds the political and the personal reality.

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 So, let's move to the third major area we identified.

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 This is where things get really broad, showing off their, well, their curiosity.

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 This is the beyond identity stuff.

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 They promised synergy and the pursuit of happiness.

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 And for them, that seems to cover, well, almost anything.

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 Pop culture, philosophy, random trivia.

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 They get into some pretty abstract territory.

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 One on concepts or one on truthiness, which is always interesting.

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 And I saw one titled, "Why stupid people become successful."

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 That sounds provocative.

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 You can tell they just enjoy thinking about big, tricky questions.

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 And they clearly love language, too.

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 There are episodes on common misconceptions, strange words.

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 And specific debates, like about the word "mankind" or whether "funnest" is a real

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 They like digging into those details.

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 Linguistic puzzles.

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 Sounds like they enjoy puzzles in general.

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 Which leads into the pop culture stuff, too.

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 They do the classic debates, you know, Star Wars versus Star Trek.

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 A cornerstone of geek culture.

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 Of course.

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 But they also have these really creative quiz episodes.

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 My favorite title has to be, "Star Wars Planet or Prescription Medicine?"

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 That's brilliant.

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 It sounds like a genuinely hard quiz.

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 Alderon.

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 It's random but fun.

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 And that randomness pops up elsewhere, too, like a "Can You See Ghosts" test or an episode

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 So, they really embrace the peculiar alongside the profound.

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 It feels like their definition of pursuit of happiness is just incredibly wide-ranging.

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 It includes everything from ghosts to grammar to political leadership.

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 And just to touch on the political again, sticking to our impartiality rule, the archive

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 So, if you look at the archive, it's not just about the political and the personality

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 The archive does include episodes analyzing specific political statements or executive

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 But it seems, from the descriptions and context, these are discussed as external factors impacting

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 them, their relationship, their synergy.

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 It fits the overall framework.

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 It all comes back to that central idea.

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 How does the world politics, pop culture, weird words affect us, our life together?

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 That seems to be the core method, discussing everything through that intimate filter.

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 It's consistent.

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 Now, if people listening are intrigued by this and want to check out the Baehr and

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 Curadh archive for themselves, we should give them the practical details.

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 How can you actually listen or connect?

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 So, the main way to get all 160 plus episodes is their RSS feed.

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 Yep.

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 The URL is https://www.awes.com/podcast/bc/bcrss.xml.

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 Let's spell out that domain, awes.com.

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 This was episode 166 of The Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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