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 I love you, Curadh.

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 I love you, Baehr.

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 This is episode 166 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.

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 We're going to talk about gay stereotypes.

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 Well, first thing let's talk about, I guess, the stereotype, but just went there, but I went

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 to New Jersey for a little bit.

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 Because you adore your mother?

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 Yes, I can transfer to my mother from living in New Jersey, back to New Jersey, living

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 in Kansas with us, just to torture you.

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 Now, she's not living with us, but she's here with us now, so, but that was an exciting

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 trip.

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 I was a whirlwind of a trip.

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 I was there for three days and then took four, left Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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 Friday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, to drive back.

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 So that was like what?

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 Now, it's a long drive.

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 It's a long, very boring drive when your mother suffers from dementia.

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 But you could've listened to our podcast and kept yourself entertained the entire time.

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 There's 160 episodes.

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 Yeah, but I don't want to listen to myself.

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 I listen to my room thoughts on my own at all the time.

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 I don't want to listen to them actually being spoken.

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 But it was a good trip.

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 My mom here, it's safe and sound, so I'm happy to be home with you.

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 You look like you'd rather, you've seen a ghost.

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 Nothing else.

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 Okay, so I guess we'll get on with the show then.

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 What is a stereotype?

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 I don't know.

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 What is a stereotype?

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 It is a printing term.

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 You remember at Cowtown when we went to the print office, they had all the little boxes with

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 the little letters in them that they would put together and make a newspaper that is called

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 If they want something that's more permanent, like I don't know, like Bible pages that are

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 So, they won't fall apart and they don't have to be reset and everything.

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 They can just get them forever and they stay the same forever and they're called stereotype.

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 So, we're going to go more of the direct stereotype about that, right?

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 So why have we never talked about stereotypes before?

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 I would have sworn that we have.

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 It seems like we've kind of touched on the subject.

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 I remember the one about things that heterosexual men won't do because they think it looks gay.

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 I mean, that seemed to pander to stereotypes.

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 gay men and movies are violent and murderous.

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 What was the name of that Alfred Hitchcock movie about the gay couple that murdered people?

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 I've never seen that one.

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 But there's tons of movies with gay psychopaths.

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 I think it's the only thing that came in her inner violent movies and murderous movies.

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 I'm not even going to look for it, because I know it's not true.

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 Bisexuals are gay, but are afraid to admit it, but what do you think?

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 People I was bisexual for a longer time, and then I'm like, who?

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 Although I don't recall ever saying that, but you were bisexual, man.

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 Gay men are promiscuous.

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 Is it a stereotype when it's true?

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 You're promiscuous, right?

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 In your life, how many different people have you had sex with?

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 Gay men cannot commit to a relationship.

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 It's like finding a missing, like the white albino alligator.

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 Gay men are never butch.

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 Because they're not lesbians.

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 And you can see so smart.

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 You're pretty butch, aren't you?

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 I have people that come, say that I act very straight, so something, I just be me.

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 Like I said, I just be me, and that's all, I don't, I don't try to be any specific way.

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 Gay men don't like sports.

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 I freaking hate sports.

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 I'm the direct opposite of that statement, so I mean, you can testify to that.

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 Is there anything on TV that you watch that isn't sports?

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 That's all I watch today, so which one are we on now?

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 Gay men love the theater, the theater.

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 Yes, that's a stereotype, I mean, I, I couldn't tell if I was somebody who'd been to the theater.

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 I have a story about that.

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 When I worked at the ticket office in town, one day they assigned me with a volunteer to

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 Oh my God, Jesus, could acting like a panties in her own bunch?

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 I mean, it's a test being with a pee, test being, wow, people get all upset about loving silly,

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 Gay actors can never be a leading man.

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 Not true.

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 How many do you know?

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 Gay actors are the leading men, I don't know any personally, but wasn't Rock Hudson considered

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 Did anybody know he was gay?

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 Not until he died.

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 I thought people in high would do.

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 Yeah, they helped him cover it up.

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 The first gay leading man I can think of was in bros.

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 What was his name?

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 I can't think of either one of their names right now.

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 Well, can I have some kind of medicine though?

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 I reassure it.

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 Yeah, and I can't think of the other guy's name either, so they must be really known as

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 a leading man since you can't remember their names.

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 I don't know.

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 It's a stereotype, but unfortunately, it's true.

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 Very, very untrue.

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 I'm very sad that it's true, but what can you do?

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 What can you do?

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 What can you do?

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 What can you do?

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 You can't remember their names.

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 It's a stereotype, but unfortunately, it's true.

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 Yeah, I think anybody can be over-traumatic though, but I do think Saint came in to pretend

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 Hey, you know, go like crap.

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 Is it okay to lean into the stereotype?

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 I guess.

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 If you want to, I mean, why?

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00:11:16.854 --> 00:11:20.014
 I guess as long as that's the way you really are.

265
00:11:20.014 --> 00:11:21.014
 Yeah.

266
00:11:21.014 --> 00:11:22.014
 Yeah.

267
00:11:22.014 --> 00:11:27.374
 I mean, there are some guys who just never had the luxury of being in the closet.

268
00:11:27.374 --> 00:11:28.374
 Yeah.

269
00:11:28.374 --> 00:11:29.374
 Yeah, that's true.

270
00:11:29.374 --> 00:11:32.694
 So, then you think they ever do it just to do it, or do it?

271
00:11:32.694 --> 00:11:33.694
 Because they can.

272
00:11:33.694 --> 00:11:34.694
 Yeah.

273
00:11:34.694 --> 00:11:35.694
 Hmm.

274
00:11:35.694 --> 00:11:36.694
 Possibly.

275
00:11:36.694 --> 00:11:37.694
 Yeah.

276
00:11:37.694 --> 00:11:38.694
 It's a thought.

277
00:11:38.694 --> 00:11:40.814
 Let's be in women fall in love too easily.

278
00:11:40.814 --> 00:11:43.734
 I think it's just like sharing mailboxes.

279
00:11:43.734 --> 00:11:48.094
 Have you told the joke?

280
00:11:48.094 --> 00:11:49.094
 Yes, I did.

281
00:11:49.094 --> 00:11:52.334
 No, I don't think that's true.

282
00:11:52.334 --> 00:11:55.014
 What's the most famous lesbian joke in the world?

283
00:11:55.014 --> 00:11:57.134
 Is it always about their moving dates?

284
00:11:57.134 --> 00:11:58.134
 Yeah.

285
00:11:58.134 --> 00:12:00.134
 What does a lesbian take on a second date?

286
00:12:00.134 --> 00:12:01.134
 A toaster.

287
00:12:01.134 --> 00:12:02.134
 Are you all?

288
00:12:02.134 --> 00:12:03.134
 Are you all?

289
00:12:03.134 --> 00:12:04.134
 Okay.

290
00:12:04.134 --> 00:12:05.134
 Yeah.

291
00:12:05.134 --> 00:12:08.454
 But it's, it's, it's, it's so true.

292
00:12:08.454 --> 00:12:11.454
 I can't argue it.

293
00:12:11.454 --> 00:12:12.454
 I mean.

294
00:12:12.454 --> 00:12:19.494
 Well, that's all I got to say about that is, it's got to be a stereotype because it's on this

295
00:12:19.494 --> 00:12:20.494
 list.

296
00:12:20.494 --> 00:12:21.494
 Okay.

297
00:12:21.494 --> 00:12:22.494
 There.

298
00:12:22.494 --> 00:12:25.254
 The lesbian's got to pass.

299
00:12:25.254 --> 00:12:29.854
 Um, okay, men have a better fashion sense than heterosexuals.

300
00:12:29.854 --> 00:12:30.854
 Well, duh.

301
00:12:30.854 --> 00:12:31.854
 Yeah, that's true.

302
00:12:31.854 --> 00:12:34.254
 There's no reason you can talk about that one.

303
00:12:34.254 --> 00:12:36.574
 Okay, men love shopping.

304
00:12:36.574 --> 00:12:38.974
 Yeah, I'm definitely one of those.

305
00:12:38.974 --> 00:12:40.694
 You shop a lot though.

306
00:12:40.694 --> 00:12:41.694
 On Amazon?

307
00:12:41.694 --> 00:12:42.694
 Yeah, but it's so shopping.

308
00:12:42.694 --> 00:12:44.214
 I am not driving all over again.

309
00:12:44.214 --> 00:12:45.214
 Oh, I know.

310
00:12:45.214 --> 00:12:46.214
 The exact thing that I want.

311
00:12:46.214 --> 00:12:47.214
 Oh, I know.

312
00:12:47.214 --> 00:12:48.214
 I know.

313
00:12:48.214 --> 00:12:49.214
 No, no, no, no.

314
00:12:49.214 --> 00:12:50.214
 I know.

315
00:12:50.214 --> 00:12:51.214
 But, um, yeah.

316
00:12:51.214 --> 00:12:54.894
 And as a result, we get a delivery from Amazon just about every day.

317
00:12:54.894 --> 00:12:55.894
 Mm-hmm.

318
00:12:55.894 --> 00:12:56.894
 Okay.

319
00:12:56.894 --> 00:12:59.174
 Gaming loves disco.

320
00:12:59.174 --> 00:13:02.414
 Do you know what 25th-century bumper stickers say?

321
00:13:02.414 --> 00:13:03.414
 No.

322
00:13:03.414 --> 00:13:05.614
 Disco still sucks.

323
00:13:05.614 --> 00:13:06.614
 Should.

324
00:13:06.614 --> 00:13:07.614
 Gaming.

325
00:13:07.614 --> 00:13:14.614
 Uh, and I would like disco in the first place, but, um, came in, have limp at wrists.

326
00:13:14.614 --> 00:13:15.614
 All of them.

327
00:13:15.614 --> 00:13:16.614
 All of them.

328
00:13:16.614 --> 00:13:17.614
 Hmm.

329
00:13:17.614 --> 00:13:22.554
 And remember when we went to Wild Lights at the Zoo and I had you take your picture next

330
00:13:22.554 --> 00:13:28.874
 to one of those, um, things and the bear had this limp history as to do is like that.

331
00:13:28.874 --> 00:13:29.874
 Yeah.

332
00:13:29.874 --> 00:13:30.874
 I saw that.

333
00:13:30.874 --> 00:13:34.074
 That matches the stereotype of a bear just so much.

334
00:13:34.074 --> 00:13:35.074
 Sorry.

335
00:13:35.074 --> 00:13:36.074
 Sorry.

336
00:13:36.074 --> 00:13:46.794
 Just like the gay bears, um, there are some men that look incredibly hot and then they

337
00:13:46.794 --> 00:13:49.314
 open their mouth and talk and chiffon falls out.

338
00:13:49.314 --> 00:13:50.314
 Yeah.

339
00:13:50.314 --> 00:13:51.314
 Yeah.

340
00:13:51.314 --> 00:13:54.314
 I mean, the porn actor he liked was like that.

341
00:13:54.314 --> 00:13:55.314
 Who's his name?

342
00:13:55.314 --> 00:13:56.314
 Oh.

343
00:13:56.314 --> 00:13:57.314
 Jack Redcliffe.

344
00:13:57.314 --> 00:13:58.314
 Yeah.

345
00:13:58.314 --> 00:14:00.794
 Um, he sounded more like Kermit the Frog, though.

346
00:14:00.794 --> 00:14:01.794
 No, okay.

347
00:14:01.794 --> 00:14:02.794
 That's funny.

348
00:14:02.794 --> 00:14:03.794
 Hmm.

349
00:14:03.794 --> 00:14:04.794
 I think Kermit?

350
00:14:04.794 --> 00:14:05.794
 All right.

351
00:14:05.794 --> 00:14:12.394
 K-men have a K-d-r and can suddenly recognize other K-men.

352
00:14:12.394 --> 00:14:14.474
 Um, I think I've proven over and over and over again.

353
00:14:14.474 --> 00:14:15.474
 That's not true.

354
00:14:15.474 --> 00:14:16.474
 Yeah.

355
00:14:16.474 --> 00:14:17.474
 Yeah.

356
00:14:17.474 --> 00:14:22.474
 There were, there were guys who were right in front of me and I never saw it.

357
00:14:22.474 --> 00:14:23.794
 Not really.

358
00:14:23.794 --> 00:14:29.554
 And of course, from time to time, you really got a peg on somebody and he starts talking about

359
00:14:29.554 --> 00:14:30.554
 his wife.

360
00:14:30.554 --> 00:14:31.554
 Mm-hmm.

361
00:14:31.554 --> 00:14:32.554
 Yeah, that's true.

362
00:14:32.554 --> 00:14:36.314
 Then he's sucking your dick and now I'm out there.

363
00:14:36.314 --> 00:14:37.314
 [laughs]

364
00:14:37.314 --> 00:14:38.314
 Sorry.

365
00:14:38.314 --> 00:14:42.994
 I don't know if that was appropriate or not.

366
00:14:42.994 --> 00:14:48.994
 Oh, speaking of gay men are hedonistic and hypersexual.

367
00:14:48.994 --> 00:14:49.994
 Yeah.

368
00:14:49.994 --> 00:14:53.994
 Well, I guess I got nothing to say about that, huh?

369
00:14:53.994 --> 00:14:54.994
 All right.

370
00:14:54.994 --> 00:14:55.994
 It's true.

371
00:14:55.994 --> 00:14:56.994
 Yeah.

372
00:14:56.994 --> 00:15:00.474
 K-men are always lashing out their heterosexual men.

373
00:15:00.474 --> 00:15:01.474
 Also true.

374
00:15:01.474 --> 00:15:02.474
 Yeah.

375
00:15:02.474 --> 00:15:05.234
 Or at least the heterosexual men all think that.

376
00:15:05.234 --> 00:15:06.234
 Yeah.

377
00:15:06.234 --> 00:15:07.234
 That's very true.

378
00:15:07.234 --> 00:15:08.234
 Very, very true.

379
00:15:08.234 --> 00:15:14.494
 So, they pretend like they're disgusted that a guy is looking at them but then they get

380
00:15:14.494 --> 00:15:16.834
 mad when they won't look at them.

381
00:15:16.834 --> 00:15:17.834
 All right.

382
00:15:17.834 --> 00:15:18.834
 Okay.

383
00:15:18.834 --> 00:15:22.274
 K-men are festive and party too much.

384
00:15:22.274 --> 00:15:23.274
 Of course.

385
00:15:23.274 --> 00:15:24.274
 What do we do?

386
00:15:24.274 --> 00:15:26.474
 We're not meeting you.

387
00:15:26.474 --> 00:15:27.474
 So yeah.

388
00:15:27.474 --> 00:15:28.474
 Yeah.

389
00:15:28.474 --> 00:15:29.974
 We're the prime examples of festive.

390
00:15:29.974 --> 00:15:30.974
 Yeah.

391
00:15:30.974 --> 00:15:34.814
 They've been by this household recently.

392
00:15:34.814 --> 00:15:37.554
 Come by this house at 9 p.m. and find us in bed.

393
00:15:37.554 --> 00:15:38.554
 Yeah, festive.

394
00:15:38.554 --> 00:15:39.554
 Exactly.

395
00:15:39.554 --> 00:15:44.074
 So, once they come out of the closet, K-men can never go back.

396
00:15:44.074 --> 00:15:45.574
 Is that a stereotype, really?

397
00:15:45.574 --> 00:15:47.074
 I guess so.

398
00:15:47.074 --> 00:15:48.834
 I don't think that's true.

399
00:15:48.834 --> 00:15:54.874
 Try somebody who their work sends them to Dubai for a while.

400
00:15:54.874 --> 00:15:55.874
 Oh.

401
00:15:55.874 --> 00:15:56.874
 Yeah.

402
00:15:56.874 --> 00:15:59.594
 Well, that's not really my choice.

403
00:15:59.594 --> 00:16:00.594
 That's fine.

404
00:16:00.594 --> 00:16:03.874
 Well, it doesn't say anything about choice here.

405
00:16:03.874 --> 00:16:04.874
 Let's show.

406
00:16:04.874 --> 00:16:05.874
 Hmm.

407
00:16:05.874 --> 00:16:06.874
 Okay.

408
00:16:06.874 --> 00:16:07.874
 Yeah.

409
00:16:07.874 --> 00:16:08.874
 I think that's survival sometimes.

410
00:16:08.874 --> 00:16:09.874
 Yeah.

411
00:16:09.874 --> 00:16:10.874
 Yeah.

412
00:16:10.874 --> 00:16:11.874
 K-men abuse recreational drugs.

413
00:16:11.874 --> 00:16:14.874
 I think everybody abuses recreational drugs.

414
00:16:14.874 --> 00:16:16.514
 That's why they're called recreational drugs.

415
00:16:16.514 --> 00:16:17.514
 Hmm.

416
00:16:17.514 --> 00:16:21.594
 K-men always have a fag-hag friend.

417
00:16:21.594 --> 00:16:22.594
 Hmm.

418
00:16:22.594 --> 00:16:23.594
 You too.

419
00:16:23.594 --> 00:16:24.594
 I do.

420
00:16:24.594 --> 00:16:25.594
 I don't think I do.

421
00:16:25.594 --> 00:16:28.314
 I mean, maybe somebody at work.

422
00:16:28.314 --> 00:16:29.314
 Yeah.

423
00:16:29.314 --> 00:16:30.314
 Maybe.

424
00:16:30.314 --> 00:16:31.314
 Hmm.

425
00:16:31.314 --> 00:16:35.154
 So, K-men are pedophiles that pisses me off.

426
00:16:35.154 --> 00:16:36.154
 No, we're not.

427
00:16:36.154 --> 00:16:37.154
 Hmm.

428
00:16:37.154 --> 00:16:38.154
 Hmm.

429
00:16:38.154 --> 00:16:45.834
 When I was too young to come out, I was always interested in men who are much older than

430
00:16:45.834 --> 00:16:46.834
 me.

431
00:16:46.834 --> 00:16:52.194
 And if I had been very persuasive, I don't know, I might have gotten one in trouble.

432
00:16:52.194 --> 00:16:53.194
 Hmm.

433
00:16:53.194 --> 00:16:54.594
 I never did that.

434
00:16:54.594 --> 00:16:55.594
 Yeah.

435
00:16:55.594 --> 00:17:05.714
 In theory, you see, like porn stars who go to jail for having sex with, but most of

436
00:17:05.714 --> 00:17:11.754
 the time when you actually look at the case, this underage child was like 17.

437
00:17:11.754 --> 00:17:12.754
 Yeah.

438
00:17:12.754 --> 00:17:13.754
 Yeah, of course.

439
00:17:13.754 --> 00:17:14.754
 Yeah.

440
00:17:14.754 --> 00:17:15.754
 Yeah.

441
00:17:15.754 --> 00:17:17.754
 They have to have a cut-off point somewhere.

442
00:17:17.754 --> 00:17:18.754
 Yeah.

443
00:17:18.754 --> 00:17:19.754
 I guess.

444
00:17:19.754 --> 00:17:20.754
 I don't know where I was going with that.

445
00:17:20.754 --> 00:17:21.754
 I don't know.

446
00:17:21.754 --> 00:17:22.754
 We're just trying to get this done, right?

447
00:17:22.754 --> 00:17:23.754
 No.

448
00:17:23.754 --> 00:17:24.754
 I mean, no.

449
00:17:24.754 --> 00:17:25.754
 What's going on?

450
00:17:25.754 --> 00:17:26.754
 What's going on?

451
00:17:26.754 --> 00:17:27.754
 K-men are pedophiles when you're just that.

452
00:17:27.754 --> 00:17:32.674
 So, we're gay haters and are secretly gay themselves.

453
00:17:32.674 --> 00:17:34.634
 Gay haters are secretly gay themselves.

454
00:17:34.634 --> 00:17:36.634
 Doesn't that seem true?

455
00:17:36.634 --> 00:17:37.634
 Yeah.

456
00:17:37.634 --> 00:17:38.634
 Yeah.

457
00:17:38.634 --> 00:17:44.834
 The ones that are big, it seems to be like the biggest anti-gay people always seem to be getting

458
00:17:44.834 --> 00:17:45.834
 caught.

459
00:17:45.834 --> 00:17:46.834
 Especially in Congress.

460
00:17:46.834 --> 00:17:47.834
 Yeah.

461
00:17:47.834 --> 00:17:52.234
 Taking it or giving it somehow, because they don't grind or get it.

462
00:17:52.234 --> 00:17:54.274
 Some bathroom stalls somewhere, so.

463
00:17:54.274 --> 00:18:00.114
 But even personally, bullies that you knew in high school, I mean, they always, they're

464
00:18:00.114 --> 00:18:02.754
 always the first, so they're ankles to the ceiling.

465
00:18:02.754 --> 00:18:03.754
 Mm-hmm.

466
00:18:03.754 --> 00:18:09.434
 Yeah, that it's still a stereotype, even though it's true.

467
00:18:09.434 --> 00:18:10.434
 Yeah.

468
00:18:10.434 --> 00:18:14.434
 Let's be and always stay friends with their exes.

469
00:18:14.434 --> 00:18:16.434
 It seems to be true.

470
00:18:16.434 --> 00:18:17.434
 It always lets me and I have-

471
00:18:17.434 --> 00:18:19.634
 That seems very unnatural to me.

472
00:18:19.634 --> 00:18:24.154
 I mean, best friends with them too, and then like the next one comes on, they all become

473
00:18:24.154 --> 00:18:25.154
 friends.

474
00:18:25.154 --> 00:18:26.154
 It's like, it's weird.

475
00:18:26.154 --> 00:18:31.834
 It's like, you know, like Amy Scharfell on Big Bang 30, how their mentees are so like,

476
00:18:31.834 --> 00:18:35.114
 you know, it's weird.

477
00:18:35.114 --> 00:18:37.154
 More proof that we should not be talking about this.

478
00:18:37.154 --> 00:18:38.154
 No.

479
00:18:38.154 --> 00:18:39.154
 Exactly.

480
00:18:39.154 --> 00:18:43.754
 The only thing we know about them are stereotypes.

481
00:18:43.754 --> 00:18:45.794
 Dry cleans are transsexuals.

482
00:18:45.794 --> 00:18:46.794
 Mm.

483
00:18:46.794 --> 00:18:47.794
 Not true.

484
00:18:47.794 --> 00:18:48.794
 No.

485
00:18:48.794 --> 00:18:49.794
 Okay.

486
00:18:49.794 --> 00:18:50.794
 So, I guess we're moving on?

487
00:18:50.794 --> 00:18:51.794
 No, no, no.

488
00:18:51.794 --> 00:18:52.794
 I mean, that's what you wanted to see.

489
00:18:52.794 --> 00:18:54.314
 I mean, do you have anything to add to it?

490
00:18:54.314 --> 00:18:58.434
 People who believe that just don't know any.

491
00:18:58.434 --> 00:18:59.434
 Mm-hmm.

492
00:18:59.434 --> 00:19:06.754
 A drag is not a, I don't want to say lifestyle, but a drag is a performance.

493
00:19:06.754 --> 00:19:12.114
 Like in Victor, Victoria, at the end of the performance, a drag queen would pull their

494
00:19:12.114 --> 00:19:13.994
 wig off, and it was like a big shock.

495
00:19:13.994 --> 00:19:16.194
 Oh, this wasn't really a woman.

496
00:19:16.194 --> 00:19:17.194
 That's what drag is.

497
00:19:17.194 --> 00:19:18.194
 Yeah.

498
00:19:18.194 --> 00:19:19.194
 Yeah.

499
00:19:19.194 --> 00:19:20.194
 Where's transsexuals?

500
00:19:20.194 --> 00:19:24.594
 It's not living a particular way; it's performing a particular way.

501
00:19:24.594 --> 00:19:25.594
 Mm-hmm.

502
00:19:25.594 --> 00:19:30.754
 Gay men gravitate to cities and avoid urban communities.

503
00:19:30.754 --> 00:19:38.554
 This might just be convenience, because it's simply easier to move to the big city where

504
00:19:38.554 --> 00:19:40.554
 you'll be accepted.

505
00:19:40.554 --> 00:19:41.554
 Yeah.

506
00:19:41.554 --> 00:19:47.554
 And not made fun of and, and derided for being what you want.

507
00:19:47.554 --> 00:19:48.554
 Being different, yeah.

508
00:19:48.554 --> 00:19:54.394
 There is a magazine, and I think it's still in production called RFD.

509
00:19:54.394 --> 00:19:55.394
 Oh, yeah.

510
00:19:55.394 --> 00:20:01.914
 And it is for the, the opposite of urban gaze of, for rural gaze.

511
00:20:01.914 --> 00:20:02.914
 Oh, okay.

512
00:20:02.914 --> 00:20:03.914
 Hmm.

513
00:20:03.914 --> 00:20:05.314
 That'd be interesting to read.

514
00:20:05.314 --> 00:20:06.314
 Mm-hmm.

515
00:20:06.314 --> 00:20:13.794
 It's not like a porn magazine, it's, but actually, I don't know that I, I mean, I know of

516
00:20:13.794 --> 00:20:16.714
 it, but I don't know that I've ever read it ever.

517
00:20:16.714 --> 00:20:17.714
 Okay.

518
00:20:17.714 --> 00:20:20.434
 I've never seen it at a new stand or anything.

519
00:20:20.434 --> 00:20:21.434
 Hmm.

520
00:20:21.434 --> 00:20:22.434
 Interesting.

521
00:20:22.434 --> 00:20:25.274
 Game in are better educated.

522
00:20:25.274 --> 00:20:26.274
 Of course we are.

523
00:20:26.274 --> 00:20:27.874
 But we're better all the way around.

524
00:20:27.874 --> 00:20:31.074
 I know definite exceptions to that one.

525
00:20:31.074 --> 00:20:32.074
 Oh, yes.

526
00:20:32.074 --> 00:20:33.594
 Well, it's, it was anything.

527
00:20:33.594 --> 00:20:36.434
 There are stupid people everywhere, yeah.

528
00:20:36.434 --> 00:20:42.834
 So, although, I think I may have mentioned this recently, not on the podcast, but just in

529
00:20:42.834 --> 00:20:48.754
 conversation that people really are smart, at least to people I work with are smart.

530
00:20:48.754 --> 00:20:49.754
 Okay.

531
00:20:49.754 --> 00:20:54.794
 So, the reason, I think, we point out stupid people make fun of them is because they're kind

532
00:20:54.794 --> 00:20:55.794
 of rare.

533
00:20:55.794 --> 00:20:56.794
 Oh, okay.

534
00:20:56.794 --> 00:20:57.794
 Don't you?

535
00:20:57.794 --> 00:20:59.994
 Yeah, that could be, that makes sense.

536
00:20:59.994 --> 00:21:02.794
 Let's see, just stand on them because they are so dumb.

537
00:21:02.794 --> 00:21:03.794
 Mm-hmm.

538
00:21:03.794 --> 00:21:05.114
 That could be true.

539
00:21:05.114 --> 00:21:12.114
 And in the community that I ran around with, when I was active in the gay community, these

540
00:21:12.114 --> 00:21:17.234
 were all very smart people who, you know, we're dealing with a pandemic.

541
00:21:17.234 --> 00:21:18.234
 Mm-hmm.

542
00:21:18.234 --> 00:21:19.234
 Yeah.

543
00:21:19.234 --> 00:21:20.234
 Mm-hmm.

544
00:21:20.234 --> 00:21:23.514
 I think the dumb people just didn't sign up for that.

545
00:21:23.514 --> 00:21:24.514
 Yeah.

546
00:21:24.514 --> 00:21:25.514
 That makes sense.

547
00:21:25.514 --> 00:21:26.514
 Yeah.

548
00:21:26.514 --> 00:21:27.514
 So, you don't want to do it?

549
00:21:27.514 --> 00:21:30.354
 They were the ones that drank themselves into a stupid every night.

550
00:21:30.354 --> 00:21:31.354
 Yeah.

551
00:21:31.354 --> 00:21:32.354
 Yeah.

552
00:21:32.354 --> 00:21:33.354
 I think that's the last one.

553
00:21:33.354 --> 00:21:34.354
 Is it?

554
00:21:34.354 --> 00:21:35.874
 Do you want to hear a joke?

555
00:21:35.874 --> 00:21:37.194
 Of course I do.

556
00:21:37.194 --> 00:21:38.434
 What is it?

557
00:21:38.434 --> 00:21:40.994
 How many lesbians does it take to screw in a light bulb?

558
00:21:40.994 --> 00:21:41.994
 I don't know.

559
00:21:41.994 --> 00:21:42.994
 How many?

560
00:21:42.994 --> 00:21:43.994
 Seven.

561
00:21:43.994 --> 00:21:51.614
 One to change it, three to organize the potluck and three to film an empowering documentary.

562
00:21:51.614 --> 00:21:53.354
 That's good.

563
00:21:53.354 --> 00:21:54.594
 That's cute.

564
00:21:54.594 --> 00:21:55.594
 All right.

565
00:21:55.594 --> 00:21:57.674
 Once again, we know nothing about lesbians.

566
00:21:57.674 --> 00:21:59.474
 No, nothing at all.

567
00:21:59.474 --> 00:22:00.634
 All right.

568
00:22:00.634 --> 00:22:04.354
 This was episode 167 of the Baehr And Curadh Podcast.

569
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 This is Baehr.

570
00:22:05.354 --> 00:22:06.354
 And Curadh.

571
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 You have been listening to the Baehr and Curadh podcast, a production of the Land of Awes

572
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 Information Services. We can be contacted via email using the address podcast@awes.com

573
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574
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