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This is episode 168 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.
We're going to talk about stupid things Christians believe.
Yeah.
So, we're going to lose one of our two listeners from this episode.
Oh, it's, um, what do they, what do they not believe?
You put anything with Jesus dying in front of it and you'll believe it.
And, okay, the first thing off, Pascal's wager, first off, who's Pascal, and what did he buy?
You've never heard of Blaze Pesco.
No.
He's a very famous mathematician.
But apparently, he made a bad bet.
Blaze or Pascal's wager is, um, basically playing the odds, it's saying if, if you believe
in God, uh, your, your eternal soul, the rest in heaven, so if, if no matter how bad you
are, if you're basically in the end, if you believe in God, you'll go to heaven.
Well, no, no, it's just, um, if God doesn't exist, you will have wasted your whole life
believing in him.
But if he does exist, you will waste all of eternity, so it's, it's, it's just playing
the odds.
So, it's better to believe in it just in case, yeah, well, well, we'll have to see, I guess,
one night.
That's much more of a video response than anything to look on my face.
So, alright, things that Christians believe, their deity is an all-knowing, all-powerful God
that creates the universe.
Yeah.
His deity is, their deity is much different than the deity, the, his, his, whoom and whoom
today is them and everyone's own visible deity, but they're mind-visible deities better than
your invisible deity.
I can't help but think the vast universe, I mean, goes beyond even the distances that we
can imagine.
Yeah.
And there's probably creatures of all kinds on planets all over the universe.
And people think if you pray to this deity, he's going to listen to you.
Yeah.
Or that.
And I'm a sportsman when you, I gotta thank God.
God, if they're really truly with God, he's not sitting here on a Sunday afternoon watching
you play football and catching a ball, he should not care in the least.
One of my favorite things to say, whenever I see a team kneeling down to pray before a
game, I think they think that their God is more powerful than the other teams God.
Mm-hmm.
It's a silly.
I mean, different than for their beliefs, but I just think it's stupid.
So, there's more to say as I guess.
Now you're going to get a lot of me to say to this episode, so if you don't like it, get
off.
That was very kind of something I apologize.
God had to sacrifice Himself on a cross, on a crucifix, to undo sins done by the people
He created in His own image.
Yeah.
It's kind of funny when you think about it, and it's something that's just this.
Well, I can't help but think if this deity is all powerful and all knowing, he, I'm going
to say, he's just for convenience.
He would already know how everything would come out and he wouldn't actually have to create
it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And unless we were like, like, maybe he had a dad, and we were like his, like, his, like,
his first leg.
Like where he's Legoset.
Like his Legoset that he got the fuck up with, and so we'll just kick it around and kick
it down the street and see what happens, you know.
You know, then he moved up to the rector set from the Legoset, you know what I mean?
Maybe we're just a Legoset.
And there was a Star Trek episode with a character named Trolane.
Okay.
You could do all kinds of miraculous things.
And in the end, his parents came and got him and said, look, if you can't take care of your
pets, you can't have a baby.
Yeah.
That's funny.
That's really funny.
So, you basically play with the humans?
Yes.
That's awesome.
Can you imagine if you could really do that, just like go somewhere-
That's the power of the Q.
Yeah.
Like me and you were just relaxing or whatever, like you know, I'm tired.
Let's go to Heaty.
And just go to Heaty with, like, on the house and just do it every one or-
Let's go to another universe.
Yeah.
If the D.T. created the universe, there's got to be far, far, far more interesting places
to do.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, places that we could even imagine that would be so beautiful.
Like, he on earth would-
And that's why I say-
Beautiful.
So, how could he be listening to your prayers?
He's probably doing more interesting things-
But I mean, like, you know, like James Cameron created the world avatar.
I mean, it means that that's just beautiful and it's all made believe it's stuff like that.
You know, it's-
But you're just the most beautiful thing in the world you can't even imagine is finally
out there.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, I was trying to find anything on earth, but, you know, just on the top of me
head, I was like, yeah, look, go there, but, yeah.
You just can't imagine that was my boy just to have that ability, would be, yeah.
Since Jesus died on the cross for our sins, dare we make his martyrdom meaningless by not
committing them.
Wow.
So, Dylan, tap on it for a while, dude.
Yeah.
Thank you for being this.
My calling.
That sounds funny.
It's-
That sounds funny.
It's-
Because of you, I can do this.
Thank you, Jesus.
And for the raw concert I went to, thank you.
That's gonna have fun.
I should wear a shirt like that.
I think this episode is gonna come out a lot better than I thought it would.
That's just funny.
God required the crucifixion instead of just forgiving everyone.
Hmm.
Yeah, I mean, that would have been a nice thing to do.
And it's supposed to be God's love.
But yet he dev-
Demand's retribution.
The retribution is.
In fact, all through the Bible, God acts like a spoiled child.
I've never read it.
I've never.
But it sounds like it.
Yeah, it's just-
It does.
Hmm.
Can they get my way?
Yeah.
But yeah.
It sounds like it.
And I've like-
Like I said, I have any read it.
But-
Well, you're holding the whole way to the face.
I'm killed.
Except it's created by humans and-
And that's the way they are.
Yeah.
So, screw you then.
Just go ahead.
And this is after he killed all humans and animals except the ones on the ark to purge
seeing on the planet.
So that just sounds like a mad child.
I'm gonna take my boy and go home.
Boohoo, you suck.
Look what I can do.
It's not my feet.
Cry a little.
Not get my way.
Yeah.
Don't forgive them.
Just wipe them all out of resistance.
Yeah.
Again, it's sort of petulant.
And then make a stupid movie showing a razzle crow playing you, playing.
Playing.
Well, that you said his name is gonna be on his-
His Google searches and he's gonna listen to this podcast.
Oh, well.
There you go.
And we'll say it again.
Trans-substantiation.
You've heard of this, right?
Yeah, just a few seconds ago.
A lot of this is Catholic dogma because I went to Parochial school and the Catholics believe
a lot of even stranger things that the more moderate Christians don't.
And this is one of them.
The transformation of ordinary bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ while
still maintaining the appearance of ordinary bread and wine.
We go and drink, yeah, so it's actually blood and wine when you receive communion, right?
But it's not.
But it actually is blood and flesh, but it tastes just like bread and wine.
Okay.
That blank look on your face, we really need a video of that.
I can tell that this is something you've never heard before.
Trans-substantiation is new to you.
What church did you go to when you grew up?
It was Catholic church and I just bloomed and faked it.
Everyone got up and went in line.
I went in line.
When they all stood up, I stood up and they sat down.
I sat down.
Oh, so you like the Catholic calestanics during Mass?
Yeah.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Wasn't a practicing camp.
I never claimed to be so.
Well, did you go through, what's the term, where you proclaim that you're Catholic?
I can't.
No, it's after baptism.
I can't remember what it's called.
They have a name for everything.
Oh, I know.
I think I cut the classes.
You have to know it's in church.
It's a ceremonial church.
Confirmation.
I don't think I was confirmed.
Wow.
I really don't.
I think when I think my dad wanted me to when I, because my mom, my mom was Protestant.
My dad was Catholic, but my mom was non-practicing Protestant and she refused to go to a church because
she didn't practice that's one thing that my mom put her foot down about.
So yeah, it's, so he tried to get her to make me go to Catholic, you know, to mass and
all that stuff.
And she's, she'd be talking if she was, so I kind of, but he went.
Oh, well, no.
Just on Christmas and Easter.
Not even then.
He was, he said he felt bad for all the other and the same people that would get me angry.
That would get hit by lightning.
Because he didn't believe.
Because he went there and, I guess it's, oh, oh, I see, I see.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
And Easter goes, I think, I think she did practice Catholic.
Um, yeah, I think her husband is very Catholic.
Yeah, John's very Catholic, yeah.
Oh, but where were we, um, the turning water in the wine?
Oh, yes.
Um, things, stupid things, the Christian to believe.
The concept that just having a lustful thought is a sin.
It's an unlawful symbol.
That, that's got to be the most odious things they ever came up with.
Yeah.
Imagine all of these teenage boys who have raging hormones and they think they're sinning
all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Connolly.
Every time they see a bulletin board or a magazine ad or something like that.
So, I just ran them shit and there's a few kids who are you off.
Um, yeah.
So, yeah.
That's just insidious.
Uh-huh.
That's me.
Yeah.
That's me.
I mean, even unwanted thoughts.
Uh-huh.
I mean, that's really actually encouraging people not to think, to think for themselves.
Yeah.
You're right.
It's crazy.
To have read some stuff on conversion therapy, there's several conversion therapy camps
here in Kansas that people send their kids to pray away the gay.
And one of the things that one of the guys commented on was just how awful it was all
day.
He would stay home and not turn on TV because he was afraid he would see something that would
give him a less terrible.
No one should have to live like that.
No.
That's terrible.
That pisses me off.
God gave you free will, but everything is according to his plan.
Yeah.
Here you go.
Here's your reward, but it's the biggest part of your life.
Yeah.
Busy.
That's.
It's not even ironic.
It's just, I don't know, sad.
It's funny.
There's so many inconsistencies.
That's why I didn't do very well in Parochial School because I always wanted to think for myself.
I wanted to wonder about things and work them out.
And they just tell you to believe this without questioning it.
And that's just not the way I am.
No.
It's not at all a question and everything.
Despite being made in God's perfect image, we still have to circumcise the foreskin of
the penis.
Why is that?
I mean, they say it's for health, right?
It's a Jewish thing.
And I was raised Catholic, but I'm sure that they have some good reason for requiring all
their male parishioners to be circumcised.
I don't know.
Maybe it's to show sacrifice to God, or I don't know.
Probably shouldn't have put that on the list because I don't know a thing about it, except
that I'm just completely opposed to it, not on religious reasons.
But, just physically, it's a completely unnecessary act that is against torture.
Yeah, most of the time they do it on babies with no anesthesia or anything.
But besides that, you lose about 16 square inches of highly sensitive area that is just
gone.
Yeah.
I don't think it's necessary at all.
Now, not these days, so people, people, we have a healthy society, we have medical, it's
more medical capabilities, it's just not necessary.
Yeah, look at it.
Everything that is good comes from God and everything that's bad comes from Satan.
Martin, why can't we just fiddle around in the middle?
Well, as with everything, I think people are on the bill curves, and wasn't Satan created
by God.
One day like best friends?
He was like the favorite angel or something before he fell and God cast them down because
of that.
But if he had babies, he was just right-hand man, so his powerful and all that, and God cast
them down.
Sounds like a made-up story to me.
And that's about the extent of what I know about it.
This whole powerful God allows innocent little children to suffer hunger and disease.
They did nothing to this area.
I think that even involves baptism, supposedly if a child dies before being baptized, they're
cast to hell.
Oh, really?
Can't it make you a time?
And think of all the billions of humans, I think they've estimated there's been 100 billion
humans since humans came around, and the vast, vast majority of them are being held because
they've been baptized and didn't take Jesus, their personal Savior, especially the ones
that came before evil lived.
Yeah.
That's ridiculous.
It's kind of, you know, it is ridiculous.
There's so many, like you said, inconsistencies, it's just hypocrisy, the inconsistencies.
It's just silly.
It's just, and it's not feasible.
It's not.
Maybe that's where, maybe that's why we get zombies, because hell is full and there's no
more room for that.
Yeah.
No kidding.
There you go.
But I mean, just, I mean, back in the olden days, when people needed something to believe
in, they couldn't have necessarily prove that's one thing, and I think that's one thing.
They just needed an explanation.
And an explanation.
Now that God did it.
Yeah.
Now that we have other tools and reasons, it's theories and abilities and things, we don't
need to rely on this, we don't, you know what I mean?
So, it's, oh, it's just frickin' hogwash.
It's hilarious.
Yeah.
I don't have to believe in a Harry Potter world anyway.
Or Santa.
Yeah.
Or it's fun and exciting and it's not so downtrodden.
If you told somebody, you know, one of the faithful of your God is like Santa.
He doesn't exist.
He just bows the earth in the mind.
Yeah.
It's true though.
So, just, just, just, really, you know, out of my face, I'm also the truth behind my
aminesome.
Yeah.
But how do we really feel?
Everything in the Bible is the inspired words of God.
Just thinking of the way you said that sounds like the way they preach on Sunday and it made
me sick.
It really did.
Yeah.
It's just, 'cause they have like, its Sunday, you guys, these Holy Rollers there right now.
That they're going to go and, they're going to leave here, they'll go church on Sunday,
they're going to go yell at some poor waitress that's making a few bucks an hour after
that they're going to leave.
They're going to send, because that's what they do, go to the bar, or go, look at some child
pornography or something like that, you know what I mean?
And then next time they do it all over again, you know what I mean?
It's the, the people who seem to send the most are the ones who are seeing the, the party
the most.
Hmm.
Okay, okay, okay.
There's this saying that the Jews don't recognize Jesus and the Protestants don't recognize
the Pope and Baptists don't recognize each other in a liquor store.
Yeah.
Drill.
Uh, after counting the descendants of Adam and Eve in the Bible, the Earth is only about
6,000 years old.
No, that's not true.
We know that's not true.
How do we know that?
It's just that we're in the Bible, and the Bible is the inspired riddance of God.
It's got to be true.
That means you thought out the door right away.
It's just, it's not very feasible, it's not, it's not possible.
I think if we move on, we'll cover that a little bit more.
God just made the Earth appear to be millions of years old, with dinosaur bones and everything
to test our faith.
Okay, that's the first time I heard of that, I've never, I've never heard of that.
That is a pretty new concept that the Christians have, yeah, the dinosaurs never roamed the Earth.
They were all created as bones, um, by God.
Really?
Just to make it all look like the Earth is billions of years old, and it's really only 6,000
years old.
Okay, that's all new to me, yeah.
I never heard of this, the next one I never heard of, either.
God darkened the Egyptian Pharaoh's heart to give himself a reason to commit mass in
infanticide.
See, you've never heard of that before?
I, I don't know that if that's a new concept or not, I've never, ever heard of that, ever
in my life.
That, that God turned the Pharaoh's heart, um, that's in the Bible.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
Yeah, but this thing about pointing out that it gives himself a reason to kill babies.
Mm-hmm.
I probably, as I, a, a new thing.
Yeah.
It's just one more inconsistency in the Bible.
Yeah.
And once again, instead of the, the seven legs or whatever it is, he could have just forgiven
them.
Or, you know, um, instead of letting them wander in the desert or whatever, he could have
just sent them somewhere and the Egyptians wouldn't even know where to look.
Okay.
I mean, it is supposed to be an all-powerful God.
Mm-hmm.
You're right.
Only your Christian sect is right.
It is the one true hope truth to get into heaven.
There are thousands of branches, but yours is the only true religion.
You can hardly get this drilled into them, constantly.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's just, once again, my visible being is more important than your visible being.
Mm-hmm.
So, so, everything you, uh, I want to be able to--
And of all the billions of people that have lived, those who don't believe that are doomed.
Mm-hmm.
Just silly.
Just talk about playing the numbers.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's funny.
Men making love together is a mortal sin and they should be put to death for it.
It literally says that in Leviticus.
That's it, really?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Well, I know that others say that, but that's fine.
No.
If men sleep with each other.
In the Bible?
No.
Really?
Okay.
It says that man shall not lie with man as with women they should be put to death.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
That's interesting.
I guess we're going to hell.
It's supposed to be more fun down there.
That's where all my friends will be.
Yeah, exactly.
It's where it's--
Well, we know it'll be more.
So, all right.
Without the reward of heaven and the punishment of hell, people would not do good on their own.
I think that's a cracker.
First place.
People aren't as stupid as you make them out to be.
Yeah.
And there are plenty of atheists who live good, virtuous lives and do good things.
Even though, you know, their belief doesn't give them a reward of heaven.
You're right.
You really don't need that.
Mm-hmm.
There is only one true God and the rest are impostors.
Yeah, if you find the one true God, you're going to tell them about the impostors.
What do you do?
What are your enemies?
Don't worship the golden calf.
Yeah.
That's just a good way to end it though.
Well, um, and this idea that there's only one God.
I mean, um, who knows if at one point God split off into different branches.
Mm-hmm.
Well, and I think it's better.
It's better to have competition.
Yep.
Keeps you on your toes.
Mm-hmm.
You got a joke for us this week?
Yes.
Okay.
How do you make holy water?
I don't know how.
Uh-huh.
You boil the hell out of it.
There you go.
That was good.
You said it well too.
Oh, this was episode 168 of the Bear And Curadh Podcast.
This is Baehr.
This is Curadh.
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