WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.640 Hello from Bear and Curadh, a podcast from the Land of Awes Information Services. 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:20.640 [Music] 3 00:00:18.588 --> 00:00:19.748 I love you, Curadh. 4 00:00:19.748 --> 00:00:20.788 I love you, Baehr. 5 00:00:20.788 --> 00:00:25.068 This is episode 168 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast. 6 00:00:25.068 --> 00:00:30.608 We're going to talk about stupid things Christians believe. 7 00:00:30.608 --> 00:00:31.128 Yeah. 8 00:00:31.128 --> 00:00:38.748 So, we're going to lose one of our two listeners from this episode. 9 00:00:38.748 --> 00:00:44.148 Oh, it's, um, what do they, what do they not believe? 10 00:00:44.148 --> 00:00:47.908 You put anything with Jesus dying in front of it and you'll believe it. 11 00:00:47.908 --> 00:00:53.388 And, okay, the first thing off, Pascal's wager, first off, who's Pascal, and what did he buy? 12 00:00:53.388 --> 00:00:55.988 You've never heard of Blaze Pesco. 13 00:00:55.988 --> 00:00:56.988 No. 14 00:00:56.988 --> 00:00:59.948 He's a very famous mathematician. 15 00:00:59.948 --> 00:01:04.148 But apparently, he made a bad bet. 16 00:01:04.148 --> 00:01:15.108 Blaze or Pascal's wager is, um, basically playing the odds, it's saying if, if you believe 17 00:01:15.108 --> 00:01:23.928 in God, uh, your, your eternal soul, the rest in heaven, so if, if no matter how bad you 18 00:01:23.928 --> 00:01:27.348 are, if you're basically in the end, if you believe in God, you'll go to heaven. 19 00:01:27.348 --> 00:01:33.948 Well, no, no, it's just, um, if God doesn't exist, you will have wasted your whole life 20 00:01:33.948 --> 00:01:35.348 believing in him. 21 00:01:35.348 --> 00:01:43.068 But if he does exist, you will waste all of eternity, so it's, it's, it's just playing 22 00:01:43.068 --> 00:01:44.068 the odds. 23 00:01:44.068 --> 00:01:51.148 So, it's better to believe in it just in case, yeah, well, well, we'll have to see, I guess, 24 00:01:51.148 --> 00:01:52.148 one night. 25 00:01:52.148 --> 00:01:59.188 That's much more of a video response than anything to look on my face. 26 00:01:59.188 --> 00:02:06.508 So, alright, things that Christians believe, their deity is an all-knowing, all-powerful God 27 00:02:06.508 --> 00:02:08.548 that creates the universe. 28 00:02:08.548 --> 00:02:09.548 Yeah. 29 00:02:09.548 --> 00:02:15.608 His deity is, their deity is much different than the deity, the, his, his, whoom and whoom 30 00:02:15.608 --> 00:02:21.748 today is them and everyone's own visible deity, but they're mind-visible deities better than 31 00:02:21.748 --> 00:02:23.388 your invisible deity. 32 00:02:23.388 --> 00:02:30.108 I can't help but think the vast universe, I mean, goes beyond even the distances that we 33 00:02:30.108 --> 00:02:31.108 can imagine. 34 00:02:31.108 --> 00:02:32.108 Yeah. 35 00:02:32.108 --> 00:02:38.108 And there's probably creatures of all kinds on planets all over the universe. 36 00:02:38.108 --> 00:02:42.408 And people think if you pray to this deity, he's going to listen to you. 37 00:02:42.408 --> 00:02:43.408 Yeah. 38 00:02:43.408 --> 00:02:44.408 Or that. 39 00:02:44.408 --> 00:02:48.668 And I'm a sportsman when you, I gotta thank God. 40 00:02:48.668 --> 00:02:52.988 God, if they're really truly with God, he's not sitting here on a Sunday afternoon watching 41 00:02:52.988 --> 00:02:59.228 you play football and catching a ball, he should not care in the least. 42 00:02:59.228 --> 00:03:05.348 One of my favorite things to say, whenever I see a team kneeling down to pray before a 43 00:03:05.348 --> 00:03:10.588 game, I think they think that their God is more powerful than the other teams God. 44 00:03:10.588 --> 00:03:11.588 Mm-hmm. 45 00:03:11.588 --> 00:03:12.588 It's a silly. 46 00:03:12.588 --> 00:03:16.588 I mean, different than for their beliefs, but I just think it's stupid. 47 00:03:16.588 --> 00:03:19.108 So, there's more to say as I guess. 48 00:03:19.108 --> 00:03:23.988 Now you're going to get a lot of me to say to this episode, so if you don't like it, get 49 00:03:23.988 --> 00:03:24.988 off. 50 00:03:24.988 --> 00:03:28.268 That was very kind of something I apologize. 51 00:03:28.268 --> 00:03:34.868 God had to sacrifice Himself on a cross, on a crucifix, to undo sins done by the people 52 00:03:34.868 --> 00:03:37.068 He created in His own image. 53 00:03:37.068 --> 00:03:38.068 Yeah. 54 00:03:38.068 --> 00:03:47.348 It's kind of funny when you think about it, and it's something that's just this. 55 00:03:47.348 --> 00:03:55.708 Well, I can't help but think if this deity is all powerful and all knowing, he, I'm going 56 00:03:55.708 --> 00:03:58.228 to say, he's just for convenience. 57 00:03:58.228 --> 00:04:02.708 He would already know how everything would come out and he wouldn't actually have to create 58 00:04:02.708 --> 00:04:03.708 it. 59 00:04:03.708 --> 00:04:04.708 Yeah. 60 00:04:04.708 --> 00:04:05.708 Yeah. 61 00:04:05.708 --> 00:04:06.708 Exactly. 62 00:04:06.708 --> 00:04:07.708 Yeah. 63 00:04:07.708 --> 00:04:14.188 And unless we were like, like, maybe he had a dad, and we were like his, like, his, like, 64 00:04:14.188 --> 00:04:15.188 his first leg. 65 00:04:15.188 --> 00:04:16.188 Like where he's Legoset. 66 00:04:16.188 --> 00:04:21.648 Like his Legoset that he got the fuck up with, and so we'll just kick it around and kick 67 00:04:21.648 --> 00:04:23.988 it down the street and see what happens, you know. 68 00:04:23.988 --> 00:04:29.588 You know, then he moved up to the rector set from the Legoset, you know what I mean? 69 00:04:29.588 --> 00:04:31.548 Maybe we're just a Legoset. 70 00:04:31.548 --> 00:04:35.868 And there was a Star Trek episode with a character named Trolane. 71 00:04:35.868 --> 00:04:36.868 Okay. 72 00:04:36.868 --> 00:04:40.908 You could do all kinds of miraculous things. 73 00:04:40.908 --> 00:04:46.668 And in the end, his parents came and got him and said, look, if you can't take care of your 74 00:04:46.668 --> 00:04:48.588 pets, you can't have a baby. 75 00:04:48.588 --> 00:04:49.588 Yeah. 76 00:04:49.588 --> 00:04:50.588 That's funny. 77 00:04:50.588 --> 00:04:51.588 That's really funny. 78 00:04:51.588 --> 00:04:52.588 So, you basically play with the humans? 79 00:04:52.588 --> 00:04:53.588 Yes. 80 00:04:53.588 --> 00:04:54.588 That's awesome. 81 00:04:54.588 --> 00:04:57.588 Can you imagine if you could really do that, just like go somewhere- 82 00:04:57.588 --> 00:04:58.588 That's the power of the Q. 83 00:04:58.588 --> 00:04:59.588 Yeah. 84 00:04:59.588 --> 00:05:03.268 Like me and you were just relaxing or whatever, like you know, I'm tired. 85 00:05:03.268 --> 00:05:04.268 Let's go to Heaty. 86 00:05:04.268 --> 00:05:08.268 And just go to Heaty with, like, on the house and just do it every one or- 87 00:05:08.268 --> 00:05:10.068 Let's go to another universe. 88 00:05:10.068 --> 00:05:11.068 Yeah. 89 00:05:11.068 --> 00:05:19.308 If the D.T. created the universe, there's got to be far, far, far more interesting places 90 00:05:19.308 --> 00:05:20.308 to do. 91 00:05:20.308 --> 00:05:21.308 Oh, yeah. 92 00:05:21.308 --> 00:05:26.308 I mean, places that we could even imagine that would be so beautiful. 93 00:05:26.308 --> 00:05:27.308 Like, he on earth would- 94 00:05:27.308 --> 00:05:28.308 And that's why I say- 95 00:05:28.308 --> 00:05:29.308 Beautiful. 96 00:05:29.308 --> 00:05:32.348 So, how could he be listening to your prayers? 97 00:05:32.348 --> 00:05:34.348 He's probably doing more interesting things- 98 00:05:34.348 --> 00:05:38.628 But I mean, like, you know, like James Cameron created the world avatar. 99 00:05:38.628 --> 00:05:43.308 I mean, it means that that's just beautiful and it's all made believe it's stuff like that. 100 00:05:43.308 --> 00:05:44.308 You know, it's- 101 00:05:44.308 --> 00:05:49.988 But you're just the most beautiful thing in the world you can't even imagine is finally 102 00:05:49.988 --> 00:05:50.988 out there. 103 00:05:50.988 --> 00:05:51.988 You know what I mean? 104 00:05:51.988 --> 00:05:55.828 So, yeah, I was trying to find anything on earth, but, you know, just on the top of me 105 00:05:55.828 --> 00:05:58.748 head, I was like, yeah, look, go there, but, yeah. 106 00:05:58.748 --> 00:06:05.368 You just can't imagine that was my boy just to have that ability, would be, yeah. 107 00:06:05.368 --> 00:06:11.028 Since Jesus died on the cross for our sins, dare we make his martyrdom meaningless by not 108 00:06:11.028 --> 00:06:13.028 committing them. 109 00:06:13.028 --> 00:06:14.028 Wow. 110 00:06:14.028 --> 00:06:18.228 So, Dylan, tap on it for a while, dude. 111 00:06:18.228 --> 00:06:19.228 Yeah. 112 00:06:19.228 --> 00:06:20.228 Thank you for being this. 113 00:06:20.228 --> 00:06:21.228 My calling. 114 00:06:21.228 --> 00:06:22.228 That sounds funny. 115 00:06:22.228 --> 00:06:23.228 It's- 116 00:06:23.228 --> 00:06:24.228 It's- 117 00:06:24.228 --> 00:06:25.228 That sounds funny. 118 00:06:25.228 --> 00:06:26.228 It's- 119 00:06:26.228 --> 00:06:27.228 It's- 120 00:06:27.228 --> 00:06:28.228 It's- 121 00:06:28.228 --> 00:06:29.228 It's- 122 00:06:29.228 --> 00:06:30.228 Because of you, I can do this. 123 00:06:30.228 --> 00:06:31.228 Thank you, Jesus. 124 00:06:31.228 --> 00:06:35.228 And for the raw concert I went to, thank you. 125 00:06:35.228 --> 00:06:37.228 That's gonna have fun. 126 00:06:37.228 --> 00:06:39.228 I should wear a shirt like that. 127 00:06:39.228 --> 00:06:43.668 I think this episode is gonna come out a lot better than I thought it would. 128 00:06:43.668 --> 00:06:46.988 That's just funny. 129 00:06:46.988 --> 00:06:51.748 God required the crucifixion instead of just forgiving everyone. 130 00:06:51.748 --> 00:06:52.748 Hmm. 131 00:06:52.748 --> 00:06:55.348 Yeah, I mean, that would have been a nice thing to do. 132 00:06:55.348 --> 00:06:58.948 And it's supposed to be God's love. 133 00:06:58.948 --> 00:07:00.348 But yet he dev- 134 00:07:00.348 --> 00:07:02.348 Demand's retribution. 135 00:07:02.348 --> 00:07:03.348 The retribution is. 136 00:07:03.348 --> 00:07:08.668 In fact, all through the Bible, God acts like a spoiled child. 137 00:07:08.668 --> 00:07:10.148 I've never read it. 138 00:07:10.148 --> 00:07:11.148 I've never. 139 00:07:11.148 --> 00:07:12.148 But it sounds like it. 140 00:07:12.148 --> 00:07:13.148 Yeah, it's just- 141 00:07:13.148 --> 00:07:14.148 It does. 142 00:07:14.148 --> 00:07:15.148 It does. 143 00:07:15.148 --> 00:07:16.148 Hmm. 144 00:07:16.148 --> 00:07:17.148 Can they get my way? 145 00:07:17.148 --> 00:07:18.148 Yeah. 146 00:07:18.148 --> 00:07:19.148 But yeah. 147 00:07:19.148 --> 00:07:20.148 It sounds like it. 148 00:07:20.148 --> 00:07:21.148 And I've like- 149 00:07:21.148 --> 00:07:22.148 Like I said, I have any read it. 150 00:07:22.148 --> 00:07:23.148 But- 151 00:07:23.148 --> 00:07:24.148 Well, you're holding the whole way to the face. 152 00:07:24.148 --> 00:07:25.148 I'm killed. 153 00:07:25.148 --> 00:07:27.348 Except it's created by humans and- 154 00:07:27.348 --> 00:07:28.948 And that's the way they are. 155 00:07:28.948 --> 00:07:29.948 Yeah. 156 00:07:29.948 --> 00:07:30.948 So, screw you then. 157 00:07:30.948 --> 00:07:32.748 Just go ahead. 158 00:07:32.748 --> 00:07:37.948 And this is after he killed all humans and animals except the ones on the ark to purge 159 00:07:37.948 --> 00:07:38.948 seeing on the planet. 160 00:07:38.948 --> 00:07:41.948 So that just sounds like a mad child. 161 00:07:41.948 --> 00:07:43.948 I'm gonna take my boy and go home. 162 00:07:43.948 --> 00:07:45.948 I'm gonna take my boy and go home. 163 00:07:45.948 --> 00:07:46.948 Boohoo, you suck. 164 00:07:46.948 --> 00:07:47.948 Look what I can do. 165 00:07:47.948 --> 00:07:48.948 It's not my feet. 166 00:07:48.948 --> 00:07:49.948 Cry a little. 167 00:07:49.948 --> 00:07:50.948 Not get my way. 168 00:07:50.948 --> 00:07:51.948 Yeah. 169 00:07:51.948 --> 00:07:52.948 Don't forgive them. 170 00:07:52.948 --> 00:07:55.748 Just wipe them all out of resistance. 171 00:07:55.748 --> 00:07:56.748 Yeah. 172 00:07:56.748 --> 00:07:58.748 Again, it's sort of petulant. 173 00:07:58.748 --> 00:08:03.748 And then make a stupid movie showing a razzle crow playing you, playing. 174 00:08:03.748 --> 00:08:04.748 Playing. 175 00:08:04.748 --> 00:08:08.748 Well, that you said his name is gonna be on his- 176 00:08:08.748 --> 00:08:13.748 His Google searches and he's gonna listen to this podcast. 177 00:08:13.748 --> 00:08:14.748 Oh, well. 178 00:08:14.748 --> 00:08:15.748 There you go. 179 00:08:15.748 --> 00:08:17.548 And we'll say it again. 180 00:08:17.548 --> 00:08:19.548 Trans-substantiation. 181 00:08:19.548 --> 00:08:21.548 You've heard of this, right? 182 00:08:21.548 --> 00:08:26.148 Yeah, just a few seconds ago. 183 00:08:26.148 --> 00:08:34.968 A lot of this is Catholic dogma because I went to Parochial school and the Catholics believe 184 00:08:34.968 --> 00:08:41.308 a lot of even stranger things that the more moderate Christians don't. 185 00:08:41.308 --> 00:08:42.628 And this is one of them. 186 00:08:42.628 --> 00:08:48.468 The transformation of ordinary bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ while 187 00:08:48.468 --> 00:08:52.468 still maintaining the appearance of ordinary bread and wine. 188 00:08:52.468 --> 00:08:58.708 We go and drink, yeah, so it's actually blood and wine when you receive communion, right? 189 00:08:58.708 --> 00:08:59.708 But it's not. 190 00:08:59.708 --> 00:09:07.388 But it actually is blood and flesh, but it tastes just like bread and wine. 191 00:09:07.388 --> 00:09:08.388 Okay. 192 00:09:08.388 --> 00:09:13.388 That blank look on your face, we really need a video of that. 193 00:09:13.388 --> 00:09:16.908 I can tell that this is something you've never heard before. 194 00:09:16.908 --> 00:09:21.228 Trans-substantiation is new to you. 195 00:09:21.228 --> 00:09:23.228 What church did you go to when you grew up? 196 00:09:23.228 --> 00:09:26.608 It was Catholic church and I just bloomed and faked it. 197 00:09:26.608 --> 00:09:28.708 Everyone got up and went in line. 198 00:09:28.708 --> 00:09:29.708 I went in line. 199 00:09:29.708 --> 00:09:31.948 When they all stood up, I stood up and they sat down. 200 00:09:31.948 --> 00:09:32.948 I sat down. 201 00:09:32.948 --> 00:09:36.728 Oh, so you like the Catholic calestanics during Mass? 202 00:09:36.728 --> 00:09:37.728 Yeah. 203 00:09:37.728 --> 00:09:38.728 But yeah. 204 00:09:38.728 --> 00:09:39.728 Yeah. 205 00:09:39.728 --> 00:09:40.728 Wasn't a practicing camp. 206 00:09:40.728 --> 00:09:42.988 I never claimed to be so. 207 00:09:42.988 --> 00:09:56.908 Well, did you go through, what's the term, where you proclaim that you're Catholic? 208 00:09:56.908 --> 00:09:57.908 I can't. 209 00:09:57.908 --> 00:10:00.408 No, it's after baptism. 210 00:10:00.408 --> 00:10:02.348 I can't remember what it's called. 211 00:10:02.348 --> 00:10:04.348 They have a name for everything. 212 00:10:04.348 --> 00:10:05.348 Oh, I know. 213 00:10:05.348 --> 00:10:07.548 I think I cut the classes. 214 00:10:07.548 --> 00:10:10.068 You have to know it's in church. 215 00:10:10.068 --> 00:10:14.348 It's a ceremonial church. 216 00:10:14.348 --> 00:10:15.348 Confirmation. 217 00:10:15.348 --> 00:10:16.348 Confirmation. 218 00:10:16.348 --> 00:10:18.828 I don't think I was confirmed. 219 00:10:18.828 --> 00:10:19.828 Wow. 220 00:10:19.828 --> 00:10:20.828 I really don't. 221 00:10:20.828 --> 00:10:27.548 I think when I think my dad wanted me to when I, because my mom, my mom was Protestant. 222 00:10:27.548 --> 00:10:34.148 My dad was Catholic, but my mom was non-practicing Protestant and she refused to go to a church because 223 00:10:34.148 --> 00:10:37.788 she didn't practice that's one thing that my mom put her foot down about. 224 00:10:37.788 --> 00:10:43.988 So yeah, it's, so he tried to get her to make me go to Catholic, you know, to mass and 225 00:10:43.988 --> 00:10:44.988 all that stuff. 226 00:10:44.988 --> 00:10:48.508 And she's, she'd be talking if she was, so I kind of, but he went. 227 00:10:48.508 --> 00:10:50.308 Oh, well, no. 228 00:10:50.308 --> 00:10:51.468 Just on Christmas and Easter. 229 00:10:51.468 --> 00:10:52.468 Not even then. 230 00:10:52.468 --> 00:10:56.068 He was, he said he felt bad for all the other and the same people that would get me angry. 231 00:10:56.068 --> 00:10:58.308 That would get hit by lightning. 232 00:10:58.308 --> 00:10:59.628 Because he didn't believe. 233 00:10:59.628 --> 00:11:04.228 Because he went there and, I guess it's, oh, oh, I see, I see. 234 00:11:04.228 --> 00:11:05.228 So, yeah, I don't know. 235 00:11:05.228 --> 00:11:06.228 Yeah. 236 00:11:06.228 --> 00:11:09.108 And Easter goes, I think, I think she did practice Catholic. 237 00:11:09.108 --> 00:11:12.188 Um, yeah, I think her husband is very Catholic. 238 00:11:12.188 --> 00:11:14.628 Yeah, John's very Catholic, yeah. 239 00:11:14.628 --> 00:11:18.708 Oh, but where were we, um, the turning water in the wine? 240 00:11:18.708 --> 00:11:19.708 Oh, yes. 241 00:11:19.708 --> 00:11:23.828 Um, things, stupid things, the Christian to believe. 242 00:11:23.828 --> 00:11:28.268 The concept that just having a lustful thought is a sin. 243 00:11:28.268 --> 00:11:30.628 It's an unlawful symbol. 244 00:11:30.628 --> 00:11:35.308 That, that's got to be the most odious things they ever came up with. 245 00:11:35.308 --> 00:11:36.308 Yeah. 246 00:11:36.308 --> 00:11:41.908 Imagine all of these teenage boys who have raging hormones and they think they're sinning 247 00:11:41.908 --> 00:11:42.908 all the time. 248 00:11:42.908 --> 00:11:43.908 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 249 00:11:43.908 --> 00:11:44.908 Connolly. 250 00:11:44.908 --> 00:11:48.988 Every time they see a bulletin board or a magazine ad or something like that. 251 00:11:48.988 --> 00:11:52.788 So, I just ran them shit and there's a few kids who are you off. 252 00:11:52.788 --> 00:11:53.788 Um, yeah. 253 00:11:53.788 --> 00:11:54.788 So, yeah. 254 00:11:54.788 --> 00:11:56.788 That's just insidious. 255 00:11:56.788 --> 00:11:57.788 Uh-huh. 256 00:11:57.788 --> 00:11:58.788 That's me. 257 00:11:58.788 --> 00:11:59.788 Yeah. 258 00:11:59.788 --> 00:12:00.788 That's me. 259 00:12:00.788 --> 00:12:03.668 I mean, even unwanted thoughts. 260 00:12:03.668 --> 00:12:04.668 Uh-huh. 261 00:12:04.668 --> 00:12:10.508 I mean, that's really actually encouraging people not to think, to think for themselves. 262 00:12:10.508 --> 00:12:11.508 Yeah. 263 00:12:11.508 --> 00:12:12.508 You're right. 264 00:12:12.508 --> 00:12:13.508 It's crazy. 265 00:12:13.508 --> 00:12:18.788 To have read some stuff on conversion therapy, there's several conversion therapy camps 266 00:12:18.788 --> 00:12:24.948 here in Kansas that people send their kids to pray away the gay. 267 00:12:24.948 --> 00:12:32.468 And one of the things that one of the guys commented on was just how awful it was all 268 00:12:32.468 --> 00:12:33.468 day. 269 00:12:33.468 --> 00:12:38.508 He would stay home and not turn on TV because he was afraid he would see something that would 270 00:12:38.508 --> 00:12:39.908 give him a less terrible. 271 00:12:39.908 --> 00:12:42.108 No one should have to live like that. 272 00:12:42.108 --> 00:12:43.108 No. 273 00:12:43.108 --> 00:12:44.108 That's terrible. 274 00:12:44.108 --> 00:12:45.108 That pisses me off. 275 00:12:45.108 --> 00:12:47.948 God gave you free will, but everything is according to his plan. 276 00:12:47.948 --> 00:12:48.948 Yeah. 277 00:12:48.948 --> 00:12:49.948 Here you go. 278 00:12:49.948 --> 00:12:54.148 Here's your reward, but it's the biggest part of your life. 279 00:12:54.148 --> 00:12:55.148 Yeah. 280 00:12:55.148 --> 00:12:56.148 Busy. 281 00:12:56.148 --> 00:12:57.148 That's. 282 00:12:57.148 --> 00:12:58.148 It's not even ironic. 283 00:12:58.148 --> 00:13:00.148 It's just, I don't know, sad. 284 00:13:00.148 --> 00:13:04.188 It's funny. 285 00:13:04.188 --> 00:13:06.708 There's so many inconsistencies. 286 00:13:06.708 --> 00:13:13.148 That's why I didn't do very well in Parochial School because I always wanted to think for myself. 287 00:13:13.148 --> 00:13:17.828 I wanted to wonder about things and work them out. 288 00:13:17.828 --> 00:13:24.508 And they just tell you to believe this without questioning it. 289 00:13:24.508 --> 00:13:27.628 And that's just not the way I am. 290 00:13:27.628 --> 00:13:28.628 No. 291 00:13:28.628 --> 00:13:31.188 It's not at all a question and everything. 292 00:13:31.188 --> 00:13:36.328 Despite being made in God's perfect image, we still have to circumcise the foreskin of 293 00:13:36.328 --> 00:13:37.828 the penis. 294 00:13:37.828 --> 00:13:38.828 Why is that? 295 00:13:38.828 --> 00:13:43.068 I mean, they say it's for health, right? 296 00:13:43.068 --> 00:13:45.828 It's a Jewish thing. 297 00:13:45.828 --> 00:13:53.588 And I was raised Catholic, but I'm sure that they have some good reason for requiring all 298 00:13:53.588 --> 00:13:58.748 their male parishioners to be circumcised. 299 00:13:58.748 --> 00:13:59.748 I don't know. 300 00:13:59.748 --> 00:14:05.548 Maybe it's to show sacrifice to God, or I don't know. 301 00:14:05.548 --> 00:14:10.748 Probably shouldn't have put that on the list because I don't know a thing about it, except 302 00:14:10.748 --> 00:14:17.148 that I'm just completely opposed to it, not on religious reasons. 303 00:14:17.148 --> 00:14:25.388 But, just physically, it's a completely unnecessary act that is against torture. 304 00:14:25.388 --> 00:14:31.948 Yeah, most of the time they do it on babies with no anesthesia or anything. 305 00:14:31.948 --> 00:14:40.668 But besides that, you lose about 16 square inches of highly sensitive area that is just 306 00:14:40.668 --> 00:14:42.668 gone. 307 00:14:42.668 --> 00:14:43.668 Yeah. 308 00:14:43.668 --> 00:14:46.108 I don't think it's necessary at all. 309 00:14:46.108 --> 00:14:57.408 Now, not these days, so people, people, we have a healthy society, we have medical, it's 310 00:14:57.408 --> 00:15:00.348 more medical capabilities, it's just not necessary. 311 00:15:00.348 --> 00:15:02.908 Yeah, look at it. 312 00:15:02.908 --> 00:15:07.308 Everything that is good comes from God and everything that's bad comes from Satan. 313 00:15:07.308 --> 00:15:11.188 Martin, why can't we just fiddle around in the middle? 314 00:15:11.188 --> 00:15:19.508 Well, as with everything, I think people are on the bill curves, and wasn't Satan created 315 00:15:19.508 --> 00:15:20.508 by God. 316 00:15:20.508 --> 00:15:22.828 One day like best friends? 317 00:15:22.828 --> 00:15:29.348 He was like the favorite angel or something before he fell and God cast them down because 318 00:15:29.348 --> 00:15:30.348 of that. 319 00:15:30.348 --> 00:15:36.268 But if he had babies, he was just right-hand man, so his powerful and all that, and God cast 320 00:15:36.268 --> 00:15:37.668 them down. 321 00:15:37.668 --> 00:15:39.748 Sounds like a made-up story to me. 322 00:15:39.748 --> 00:15:44.068 And that's about the extent of what I know about it. 323 00:15:44.068 --> 00:15:49.108 This whole powerful God allows innocent little children to suffer hunger and disease. 324 00:15:49.108 --> 00:15:51.508 They did nothing to this area. 325 00:15:51.508 --> 00:16:01.948 I think that even involves baptism, supposedly if a child dies before being baptized, they're 326 00:16:01.948 --> 00:16:02.948 cast to hell. 327 00:16:02.948 --> 00:16:03.948 Oh, really? 328 00:16:03.948 --> 00:16:05.588 Can't it make you a time? 329 00:16:05.588 --> 00:16:11.768 And think of all the billions of humans, I think they've estimated there's been 100 billion 330 00:16:11.768 --> 00:16:20.548 humans since humans came around, and the vast, vast majority of them are being held because 331 00:16:20.548 --> 00:16:25.868 they've been baptized and didn't take Jesus, their personal Savior, especially the ones 332 00:16:25.868 --> 00:16:28.428 that came before evil lived. 333 00:16:28.428 --> 00:16:29.428 Yeah. 334 00:16:29.428 --> 00:16:30.428 That's ridiculous. 335 00:16:30.428 --> 00:16:33.428 It's kind of, you know, it is ridiculous. 336 00:16:33.428 --> 00:16:41.508 There's so many, like you said, inconsistencies, it's just hypocrisy, the inconsistencies. 337 00:16:41.508 --> 00:16:42.508 It's just silly. 338 00:16:42.508 --> 00:16:44.668 It's just, and it's not feasible. 339 00:16:44.668 --> 00:16:45.668 It's not. 340 00:16:45.668 --> 00:16:51.668 Maybe that's where, maybe that's why we get zombies, because hell is full and there's no 341 00:16:51.668 --> 00:16:53.068 more room for that. 342 00:16:53.068 --> 00:16:54.068 Yeah. 343 00:16:54.068 --> 00:16:55.068 No kidding. 344 00:16:55.068 --> 00:16:56.068 There you go. 345 00:16:56.068 --> 00:16:59.668 But I mean, just, I mean, back in the olden days, when people needed something to believe 346 00:16:59.668 --> 00:17:04.148 in, they couldn't have necessarily prove that's one thing, and I think that's one thing. 347 00:17:04.148 --> 00:17:06.148 They just needed an explanation. 348 00:17:06.148 --> 00:17:07.148 And an explanation. 349 00:17:07.148 --> 00:17:08.148 Now that God did it. 350 00:17:08.148 --> 00:17:09.148 Yeah. 351 00:17:09.148 --> 00:17:13.508 Now that we have other tools and reasons, it's theories and abilities and things, we don't 352 00:17:13.508 --> 00:17:16.188 need to rely on this, we don't, you know what I mean? 353 00:17:16.188 --> 00:17:19.748 So, it's, oh, it's just frickin' hogwash. 354 00:17:19.748 --> 00:17:20.748 It's hilarious. 355 00:17:20.748 --> 00:17:21.748 Yeah. 356 00:17:21.748 --> 00:17:23.748 I don't have to believe in a Harry Potter world anyway. 357 00:17:23.748 --> 00:17:24.748 Or Santa. 358 00:17:24.748 --> 00:17:25.748 Yeah. 359 00:17:25.748 --> 00:17:30.988 Or it's fun and exciting and it's not so downtrodden. 360 00:17:30.988 --> 00:17:37.908 If you told somebody, you know, one of the faithful of your God is like Santa. 361 00:17:37.908 --> 00:17:38.908 He doesn't exist. 362 00:17:38.908 --> 00:17:41.988 He just bows the earth in the mind. 363 00:17:41.988 --> 00:17:42.988 Yeah. 364 00:17:42.988 --> 00:17:43.988 Yeah. 365 00:17:43.988 --> 00:17:44.988 It's true though. 366 00:17:44.988 --> 00:17:48.948 So, just, just, just, really, you know, out of my face, I'm also the truth behind my 367 00:17:48.948 --> 00:17:49.948 aminesome. 368 00:17:49.948 --> 00:17:50.948 Yeah. 369 00:17:50.948 --> 00:17:54.948 But how do we really feel? 370 00:17:54.948 --> 00:17:59.288 Everything in the Bible is the inspired words of God. 371 00:17:59.288 --> 00:18:04.028 Just thinking of the way you said that sounds like the way they preach on Sunday and it made 372 00:18:04.028 --> 00:18:05.028 me sick. 373 00:18:05.028 --> 00:18:06.028 It really did. 374 00:18:06.028 --> 00:18:07.028 Yeah. 375 00:18:07.028 --> 00:18:12.628 It's just, 'cause they have like, its Sunday, you guys, these Holy Rollers there right now. 376 00:18:12.628 --> 00:18:16.828 That they're going to go and, they're going to leave here, they'll go church on Sunday, 377 00:18:16.828 --> 00:18:21.468 they're going to go yell at some poor waitress that's making a few bucks an hour after 378 00:18:21.468 --> 00:18:22.468 that they're going to leave. 379 00:18:22.468 --> 00:18:27.688 They're going to send, because that's what they do, go to the bar, or go, look at some child 380 00:18:27.688 --> 00:18:30.508 pornography or something like that, you know what I mean? 381 00:18:30.508 --> 00:18:33.188 And then next time they do it all over again, you know what I mean? 382 00:18:33.188 --> 00:18:37.148 It's the, the people who seem to send the most are the ones who are seeing the, the party 383 00:18:37.148 --> 00:18:38.148 the most. 384 00:18:38.148 --> 00:18:39.148 Hmm. 385 00:18:39.148 --> 00:18:40.148 Okay, okay, okay. 386 00:18:40.148 --> 00:18:46.628 There's this saying that the Jews don't recognize Jesus and the Protestants don't recognize 387 00:18:46.628 --> 00:18:51.068 the Pope and Baptists don't recognize each other in a liquor store. 388 00:18:51.068 --> 00:18:52.068 Yeah. 389 00:18:52.068 --> 00:18:53.068 Drill. 390 00:18:53.068 --> 00:19:01.148 Uh, after counting the descendants of Adam and Eve in the Bible, the Earth is only about 391 00:19:01.148 --> 00:19:03.148 6,000 years old. 392 00:19:03.148 --> 00:19:04.308 No, that's not true. 393 00:19:04.308 --> 00:19:05.908 We know that's not true. 394 00:19:05.908 --> 00:19:07.228 How do we know that? 395 00:19:07.228 --> 00:19:11.948 It's just that we're in the Bible, and the Bible is the inspired riddance of God. 396 00:19:11.948 --> 00:19:12.948 It's got to be true. 397 00:19:12.948 --> 00:19:16.428 That means you thought out the door right away. 398 00:19:16.428 --> 00:19:20.028 It's just, it's not very feasible, it's not, it's not possible. 399 00:19:20.028 --> 00:19:24.348 I think if we move on, we'll cover that a little bit more. 400 00:19:24.348 --> 00:19:30.708 God just made the Earth appear to be millions of years old, with dinosaur bones and everything 401 00:19:30.708 --> 00:19:31.708 to test our faith. 402 00:19:31.708 --> 00:19:35.468 Okay, that's the first time I heard of that, I've never, I've never heard of that. 403 00:19:35.468 --> 00:19:44.188 That is a pretty new concept that the Christians have, yeah, the dinosaurs never roamed the Earth. 404 00:19:44.188 --> 00:19:48.708 They were all created as bones, um, by God. 405 00:19:48.708 --> 00:19:49.708 Really? 406 00:19:49.708 --> 00:19:56.068 Just to make it all look like the Earth is billions of years old, and it's really only 6,000 407 00:19:56.068 --> 00:19:57.068 years old. 408 00:19:57.068 --> 00:19:58.948 Okay, that's all new to me, yeah. 409 00:19:58.948 --> 00:20:01.748 I never heard of this, the next one I never heard of, either. 410 00:20:01.748 --> 00:20:07.188 God darkened the Egyptian Pharaoh's heart to give himself a reason to commit mass in 411 00:20:07.188 --> 00:20:08.188 infanticide. 412 00:20:08.188 --> 00:20:10.908 See, you've never heard of that before? 413 00:20:10.908 --> 00:20:17.028 I, I don't know that if that's a new concept or not, I've never, ever heard of that, ever 414 00:20:17.028 --> 00:20:18.028 in my life. 415 00:20:18.028 --> 00:20:22.468 That, that God turned the Pharaoh's heart, um, that's in the Bible. 416 00:20:22.468 --> 00:20:23.468 Oh, is it? 417 00:20:23.468 --> 00:20:24.468 Yeah. 418 00:20:24.468 --> 00:20:29.308 Yeah, but this thing about pointing out that it gives himself a reason to kill babies. 419 00:20:29.308 --> 00:20:30.308 Mm-hmm. 420 00:20:30.308 --> 00:20:32.868 I probably, as I, a, a new thing. 421 00:20:32.868 --> 00:20:33.868 Yeah. 422 00:20:33.868 --> 00:20:36.948 It's just one more inconsistency in the Bible. 423 00:20:36.948 --> 00:20:37.948 Yeah. 424 00:20:37.948 --> 00:20:45.188 And once again, instead of the, the seven legs or whatever it is, he could have just forgiven 425 00:20:45.188 --> 00:20:46.188 them. 426 00:20:46.188 --> 00:20:52.828 Or, you know, um, instead of letting them wander in the desert or whatever, he could have 427 00:20:52.828 --> 00:20:56.988 just sent them somewhere and the Egyptians wouldn't even know where to look. 428 00:20:56.988 --> 00:20:57.988 Okay. 429 00:20:57.988 --> 00:21:00.908 I mean, it is supposed to be an all-powerful God. 430 00:21:00.908 --> 00:21:01.908 Mm-hmm. 431 00:21:01.908 --> 00:21:02.908 You're right. 432 00:21:02.908 --> 00:21:05.748 Only your Christian sect is right. 433 00:21:05.748 --> 00:21:09.308 It is the one true hope truth to get into heaven. 434 00:21:09.308 --> 00:21:13.828 There are thousands of branches, but yours is the only true religion. 435 00:21:13.828 --> 00:21:16.828 You can hardly get this drilled into them, constantly. 436 00:21:16.828 --> 00:21:17.828 Mm-hmm. 437 00:21:17.828 --> 00:21:18.828 Yeah. 438 00:21:18.828 --> 00:21:22.868 That's just, once again, my visible being is more important than your visible being. 439 00:21:22.868 --> 00:21:23.868 Mm-hmm. 440 00:21:23.868 --> 00:21:25.868 So, so, everything you, uh, I want to be able to-- 441 00:21:25.868 --> 00:21:30.348 And of all the billions of people that have lived, those who don't believe that are doomed. 442 00:21:30.348 --> 00:21:31.348 Mm-hmm. 443 00:21:31.348 --> 00:21:32.348 Just silly. 444 00:21:32.348 --> 00:21:34.308 Just talk about playing the numbers. 445 00:21:34.308 --> 00:21:35.308 Mm-hmm. 446 00:21:35.308 --> 00:21:36.308 Yeah. 447 00:21:36.308 --> 00:21:38.948 That's funny. 448 00:21:38.948 --> 00:21:43.788 Men making love together is a mortal sin and they should be put to death for it. 449 00:21:43.788 --> 00:21:45.788 It literally says that in Leviticus. 450 00:21:45.788 --> 00:21:46.788 That's it, really? 451 00:21:46.788 --> 00:21:47.788 Mm-hmm. 452 00:21:47.788 --> 00:21:48.788 Yeah. 453 00:21:48.788 --> 00:21:50.788 Well, I know that others say that, but that's fine. 454 00:21:50.788 --> 00:21:51.788 No. 455 00:21:51.788 --> 00:21:52.788 If men sleep with each other. 456 00:21:52.788 --> 00:21:53.788 In the Bible? 457 00:21:53.788 --> 00:21:54.788 No. 458 00:21:54.788 --> 00:21:55.788 Really? 459 00:21:55.788 --> 00:21:56.788 Okay. 460 00:21:56.788 --> 00:22:01.788 It says that man shall not lie with man as with women they should be put to death. 461 00:22:01.788 --> 00:22:02.788 Mm-hmm. 462 00:22:02.788 --> 00:22:03.788 Okay. 463 00:22:03.788 --> 00:22:04.788 That's interesting. 464 00:22:04.788 --> 00:22:05.788 I guess we're going to hell. 465 00:22:05.788 --> 00:22:07.788 It's supposed to be more fun down there. 466 00:22:07.788 --> 00:22:09.788 That's where all my friends will be. 467 00:22:09.788 --> 00:22:10.788 Yeah, exactly. 468 00:22:10.788 --> 00:22:11.788 It's where it's-- 469 00:22:11.788 --> 00:22:12.788 Well, we know it'll be more. 470 00:22:12.788 --> 00:22:16.788 So, all right. 471 00:22:16.788 --> 00:22:22.788 Without the reward of heaven and the punishment of hell, people would not do good on their own. 472 00:22:22.788 --> 00:22:24.788 I think that's a cracker. 473 00:22:24.788 --> 00:22:26.788 First place. 474 00:22:26.788 --> 00:22:31.788 People aren't as stupid as you make them out to be. 475 00:22:31.788 --> 00:22:32.788 Yeah. 476 00:22:32.788 --> 00:22:40.788 And there are plenty of atheists who live good, virtuous lives and do good things. 477 00:22:40.788 --> 00:22:47.788 Even though, you know, their belief doesn't give them a reward of heaven. 478 00:22:47.788 --> 00:22:48.788 You're right. 479 00:22:48.788 --> 00:22:51.788 You really don't need that. 480 00:22:51.788 --> 00:22:52.788 Mm-hmm. 481 00:22:52.788 --> 00:22:56.788 There is only one true God and the rest are impostors. 482 00:22:56.788 --> 00:23:04.788 Yeah, if you find the one true God, you're going to tell them about the impostors. 483 00:23:04.788 --> 00:23:05.788 What do you do? 484 00:23:05.788 --> 00:23:06.788 What are your enemies? 485 00:23:06.788 --> 00:23:08.788 Don't worship the golden calf. 486 00:23:08.788 --> 00:23:09.788 Yeah. 487 00:23:09.788 --> 00:23:11.788 That's just a good way to end it though. 488 00:23:11.788 --> 00:23:15.788 Well, um, and this idea that there's only one God. 489 00:23:15.788 --> 00:23:21.788 I mean, um, who knows if at one point God split off into different branches. 490 00:23:21.788 --> 00:23:22.788 Mm-hmm. 491 00:23:22.788 --> 00:23:24.788 Well, and I think it's better. 492 00:23:24.788 --> 00:23:26.788 It's better to have competition. 493 00:23:26.788 --> 00:23:27.788 Yep. 494 00:23:27.788 --> 00:23:28.788 Yep. 495 00:23:28.788 --> 00:23:29.788 Keeps you on your toes. 496 00:23:29.788 --> 00:23:30.788 Mm-hmm. 497 00:23:30.788 --> 00:23:32.788 You got a joke for us this week? 498 00:23:32.788 --> 00:23:33.788 Yes. 499 00:23:33.788 --> 00:23:34.788 Okay. 500 00:23:34.788 --> 00:23:35.788 How do you make holy water? 501 00:23:35.788 --> 00:23:36.788 I don't know how. 502 00:23:36.788 --> 00:23:37.788 Uh-huh. 503 00:23:37.788 --> 00:23:38.788 You boil the hell out of it. 504 00:23:38.788 --> 00:23:39.788 There you go. 505 00:23:39.788 --> 00:23:40.788 That was good. 506 00:23:40.788 --> 00:23:43.788 You said it well too. 507 00:23:43.788 --> 00:23:50.788 Oh, this was episode 168 of the Bear And Curadh Podcast. 508 00:23:50.788 --> 00:23:51.788 This is Baehr. 509 00:23:51.788 --> 00:23:52.788 This is Curadh. 510 00:23:52.788 --> 00:23:53.788 Goodbye. 511 00:23:54.067 --> 00:24:01.227 You have been listening to the Baehr And Curadh podcast, a production of the Land of Awes 512 00:24:01.227 --> 00:24:10.307 Information Services. 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